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Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

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I said no. If you are going out in public, you should have no expectation of controlling the actions of anyone else. Children are not the problem, adults are. I don't like the fact that you're walking down the sidewalk and blowing cigarette smoke into my kid's face or the fact that you're on your cellphone talking to your bff or co-worker about God knows what at the table right next to me. However, I don't expect people to modify their rude behavior just to accommodate me.*

I know my kids act up sometimes and I'm quick to take them outside. I also go someplace more private to have a phone conversation. I'll manage my personal affairs, you worry about managing yours.*

Misbehaved children are not the problem, they are a symptom. I'd much rather deal with a misbehaved child than a rude adult with a sense of entitlement, but, again, I realize I'm in public and realize that my rights end where someone else's begin.*
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
He's one. /facepalm
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here's a clue. if he cannot be made to behave, take him to a restaurant where good behavior is not an accepted standard until he can learn to behave
yup, if they provide me with a high chair, it comes with the notion that sometime a one year old will make some noise.
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no it doesn't. it comes with a seat belt to restrain the child. fortunately that seat belt has a release the parent can use to remove the misbehaving child from the dining room
Perhaps. then again a beach town is a family town, those that don't cater to childeren tend to fold rather quickly. :shrug:
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my guess is this practice will cause that restaurant to thrive. those who do not want to have to endure children not being made to behave in a civil manner will choose this establishment as a haven
now, once other restaurants adopt the same no-brat policy, that original restaurant will have lost its unique compelling feature pushing patrons in its direction
 
justabubba said:
here's a clue. if he cannot be made to behave, take him to a restaurant where good behavior is not an accepted standard until he can learn to behave
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You sound like a miserable old man. :shrug:


We take him where he is welcomed. If you come into that same establishment and try to get all lippy with me about my kid, (you wouldn't), I'd make it hurt a little. :lol:


no it doesn't. it comes with a seat belt to restrain the child. fortunately that seat belt has a release the parent can use to remove the misbehaving child from the dining room
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I know old men like the early bird special, but if they accommodate children, you simply will have to deal with it or dine elsewhere if the establishment has no issue with said children.


my guess is this practice will cause that restaurant to thrive. those who do not want to have to endure children not being made to behave in a civil manner will choose this establishment as a haven
now, once other restaurants adopt the same no-brat policy, that original restaurant will have lost its unique compelling feature pushing patrons in its direction
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My talk about brats. Seem some can get AARP these days... Here's a clue old timer, if you don't want to dine where children are, get dinner sometime later than 4pm. :thumbs:
 
Perhaps. then again a beach town is a family town, those that don't cater to childeren tend to fold rather quickly.
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I seriously doubt that. There are completely smokeless establishments that thrive due to their selective standards, and there is a higher percentage of smokers that eat out than parents who take children not of the appropriate age that eat out.

And, as bubba has suggested, there should be implicit "rules". One might expect this at a McDonalds or equally low-brow establishment. However, if I'm dropping 40 bucks a plate on a meal with mellow ambience and upper-tier clientele, I'd be incredibly pissed at this happening.
 
OscarB63 said:
so because the kids are autistic the other patrons should just have to put up with bad behavior? I feel for the parents of kids with disabilities, but that doesn't give them the right to intrude upon the rights of others.

the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one. damn that Vulcan logic.
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Is that a constitutional right?:2razz:
 
Gipper said:
I seriously doubt that. There are completely smokeless establishments that thrive due to their selective standards, and there is a higher percentage of smokers that eat out than parents who take children not of the appropriate age that eat out.

And, as bubba has suggested, there should be implicit "rules". One might expect this at a McDonalds or equally low-brow establishment. However, if I'm dropping 40 bucks a plate on a meal with mellow ambience and upper-tier clientele, I'd be incredibly pissed at this happening.
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read my links, the olde salty has bigger issues. :lamo
 
Nothing gives anyone the right to dictate my child's behavior in a public place. End of story.
 
Oh btw I support this dive's right to do so. But to tout yourself as "kid friendly" seems to be a misnomer....:lamo
 
It could be a dive. Probably is. However, it strays from the original point.

Ultimately, if you're on vacation or just visiting, finding a quality restaurant is hit-and-miss. I've been to awful places too. Chalk it up to experience.
 
Your Star said:
Yes.

Nothing worse than having a nice dinner ruined by some screaming kid.
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You guys must go out to eat a lot.....I can only remember one misbehaving brat, in all of my 64 years, and he wasn't loud for long. Stuff a french fry in their little mouths and they usually quiet down. Oh yeah, it was my 2 year ol grandson....
But there have been several instances of adults acting like children, and sometimes the adults in question are the staff. One waitress didn't get a tip because she sat us next to a table with a young married couple having an argument. It was late in the evening, near closing time, the rest of the place was empty, and she sat us next to them....I am usually a very good tipper, but not that time.
 
theangryamerican said:
Nothing gives anyone the right to dictate my child's behavior in a public place. End of story.
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Wanna bet?

Ever see those "we reserve the right" signs people like to hang up (especially Koreans)? One of the reasons right there, buddy.

Private business gives them that right, and I wouldn't fault them for a second.
 
Gipper said:
It could be a dive. Probably is. However, it strays from the original point.

Ultimately, if you're on vacation or just visiting, finding a quality restaurant is hit-and-miss. I've been to awful places too. Chalk it up to experience.
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I call that a dive. not that its a bad thing.


Read the links, they are rude in general. not a place I would go with or without kids. :shrug:
 
It's called "Olde Salty". You don't need to be Miss Cleo to realize it's a dive.

I'm not saying name is a 100% indicator, but more often than not you can see the name of a restaurant and know what to expect. If you had a kid and had to pick between "Redwood Lodge" and "Big Mama's Stuff 'n Chug", you can kind of get an indicator about which one may run you a hundred bucks for meals and drinks with a pianist in the background on a baby grand, and which one may have peanut shells on the floor and ESPN on the big screen.
 
Gipper said:
Wanna bet?

Ever see those "we reserve the right" signs people like to hang up (especially Koreans)? One of the reasons right there, buddy.

Private business gives them that right, and I wouldn't fault them for a second.
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They are entitle to post those signs all they want, it's a violation of civil rights to remove me unless it's for my safety or the safety of other patrons. Inconvenience doesn't cut it.
The Right to Refuse Service: Can a Business Refuse Service to Someone Because of Appearance, Odor, or Attire? | LegalZoom
 
I just remembered this.....we were traveling, got a really poor nights sleep, I felt like hell, having breakfast at a Denney's....
4 " young men" were acting up, even making loud noises with those pull-popper fireworks, and I went over and told them "if you want to act like jerkoffs, do it outside. One says, "I don't jerk off", and I told him that its too bad his daddy didn't 9 months before he was born..
His friends laughed at that one. Then the manager came over and told them to leave, after asking which one was paying. That one got to stay a few minutes longer.
 
theangryamerican said:
Nothing gives anyone the right to dictate my child's behavior in a public place. End of story.
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This restaurant is on private property. Thus, the owner should retain the right to exclude whomever he desires for whatever reason, or no reason at all.
 
Coronado said:
Look up the meaning of the word "should."
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Like many issues involving constitutional law, the law against discrimination in public accommodations is in a constant state of change. Some argue that anti-discrimination laws in matters of public accommodations create a conflict between the ideal of equality and individual rights. Does the guaranteed right to public access mean the business owner's private right to exclude is violated? For the most part, courts have decided that the constitutional interest in providing equal access to public accommodations outweighs the individual liberties involved.
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Thanks for playing.
 
Coronado said:
Read my post above.
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You have no argument. I should be able to sit in my privately owned car and not smell the cigarette smoke of the driver next to me. That has no bearing on that person's legal rights.
 
We all agree the restaurant has the right to do it, but we can still comment on the motivations behind it.

I think people need to be more tolerant of each other. I've been in situations with screaming children and yes it's taxing on the nerves, but children are part of our society and our communities. Shutting them out just because they are children does not make sense to me.

This restaurant's policy would make more sense if it targeted bad parenting, i.e. if a child is screaming and misbehaving, and the parent is doing nothing about it, then they should be asked to leave. I can only think of a handful of instances where I've been in populated, closed space (like a bus, restaurant, etc.) where a child was going crazy and the parent did nothing. MOST parents get stressed out by the idea that their child is annoying others and they want to put a stop to it right away.

Target the bad parents, not all children. Anyway, from the looks of that diner, they don't exactly have the look and level of service that would demand more etiquette. They're a BBQ house and the owner is a little hoity toity.
 
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