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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so because the kids are autistic the other patrons should just have to put up with bad behavior? I feel for the parents of kids with disabilities, but that doesn't give them the right to intrude upon the rights of others.

    the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one. damn that Vulcan logic.
    Not necessarily. I subscribe to the notion that this (a noisy child policy) is what ought to be done, but that perhaps this particular case could raise difficulty with regards to the ADA (it doesn't necessarily mean that the Courts would not disagree with the mother in question, but it could possibly have implications). It was an interesting point that nevertheless is not in line with my own views. Nevertheless, the quote given by another article raised my eyebrows, as if the owner of said store said that to someone I knew with autism, I would kindly blow up in their face before exiting the premises.
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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    My older two kids (when they were 1, 2) were *those* kids that no one wants around.

    I think all of 3 times I tried to go out and have a nice family-dinner (myself, kids, my parents) - and each time my older two kids would have a horrific fit - like a "I'm terrified of the people, the chairs, everything!" type fit. (they're autistic - it was more extreme when they were younger. there was no 'controlling' them when they'd go into phases like that - it would just be 'separate, tolerate')

    That's it - 3 attempts in maybe 6 years to go out and have a nice, quiet sit down family dinner. . . I didn't bother very much because I *knew* it would be that way. . . I didn't want to deal with it.

    Now I have 4 kids and my 2nd two were NEVER like that when they were that age (they're 6 and 4, now) - never. I never even had to take them to the bathroom like some do - they simply *knew* that they had no choice but to behave.

    Of all the incidences I've had since all those years ago it's usually my husband being the culprit. *facepalm*

    But - never then, not now - never would I tolerate it for a moment. When my two were like that I felt like I couldn't get out of the place fast enough - I'd just leave as quickly as possible. it was SO humiliating to have *the* horrid children.
    I know how much of a struggle it is to keep kids under control - but I can't imagine or sympathize with parents who don't seem to be trying at all.
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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Absolutely. You shouldn't be taking a kid to a restaurant if they can't behave properly or you aren't prepared to temporarily remove them if they're causing a scene.
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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    When my two were like that I felt like I couldn't get out of the place fast enough - I'd just leave as quickly as possible. it was SO humiliating to have *the* horrid children.
    That's what I can't figure out -- it is embarrassing to me as a parent when my kid acts up. I guess maybe those parents have no sense of shame, or it is superceded by their laziness or inability to control their kids.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Or maybe, because they are used to dealing with a disabled child, they feel like they are entitled to be accommodated.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    That's what I can't figure out -- it is embarrassing to me as a parent when my kid acts up. I guess maybe those parents have no sense of shame, or it is superceded by their laziness or inability to control their kids.
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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Or maybe, because they are used to dealing with a disabled child, they feel like they are entitled to be accommodated.
    Just because a child acts out does *not* mean they're disabled in any way . . . it's quite "normal" for kids to throw a fit, toss food and things liek that - which is why many parents spend exhaustive long hours teaching their children *manors* in various ways.

    Nor does being disabled *mean* that a child does not know how to control theirselves.

    It took *a lot* of exhausting endless work but my younger two DID get passed their issues with colors, textures and other things that would put them into that type of frenzy.

    I can tell though - rather quickly - if a child has a disorder or disability which affects their function and self control. I don't hold a child's actual condition against the parents - because I've been in those shoes, too.
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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    I don't think you understood my point. I have two children. I'm extremely familiar with how children can be....throwing a fit, etc. My daughter was an absolutely horrible toddler.

    I think that some parents believe that that children are just difficult in public settings, and that this is normal, and they aren't particularly embarrassed by it. They believe children's needs should be accomodated, rather than children being taught to accomodate themselves to being in public.

    This is the clear cut message that is coming from the parent in the OP.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    I voted "yes".

    With one caveat, however.

    Perhaps instead of a total ban, add a special sound proofed dining area with padded walls for those who had crying/screaming children?

    But seriously, a separate sound-proofed area might be an option, if enough screaming parents with kids kept trying to have a meal there...wait...Ah well, close enough.

    Would be extra expense, though.
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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    I voted, ‘Hell Yeah!’
    This correlates to the right of a private business owner to discriminate.
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