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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Just because a child acts out does *not* mean they're disabled in any way . . . it's quite "normal" for kids to throw a fit, toss food and things liek that - which is why many parents spend exhaustive long hours teaching their children *manors* in various ways.

    Nor does being disabled *mean* that a child does not know how to control themselves.
    The point would then be made that your two were not as deep on the spectrum as the children who could not be taught were.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    The sound-proof room wouldn't work. Parents with screaming kids cannot stand to hear other people's screaming kids, and are usually the first ones to complain.

    I've seen a few posts where "my kid" never yells and screams in public like "other people's kids". Note the use of singular and plural. I was an only child. Screaming in public would have resulted in me getting something to really scream about. Outside of course.
    When my mom was hospitalized, my daughter was two. She went to one of 'those homes' to stay for a week. When she got home, she thought a tantrum could be fun. She threw herself on the ground, and as she was drawing breath for her air raid siren, I hoisted her up by the cross straps of her coveralls, bounced her off her feet and landed her again while simultaneously hissing at her "We don't do that". Shut her RIGHT the hell up. That was her only tantrum and yes; she's an only child.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    here's a clue. if he cannot be made to behave, take him to a restaurant where good behavior is not an accepted standard until he can learn to behave
    Exactly. Get a sitter, leave the child home. Restaurants are not one-size-fits-all.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I seriously doubt that. There are completely smokeless establishments that thrive due to their selective standards, and there is a higher percentage of smokers that eat out than parents who take children not of the appropriate age that eat out.

    And, as bubba has suggested, there should be implicit "rules". One might expect this at a McDonalds or equally low-brow establishment. However, if I'm dropping 40 bucks a plate on a meal with mellow ambience and upper-tier clientele, I'd be incredibly pissed at this happening.
    Exactly. Age has nothing to do with it.

    And sort of apropos of nothing, my sister the waitress has repeatedly bitched about the people who are the most hassle, with the most ill-mannered little brats, generally leave the worst tips. YMMV.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Of course not... and with all of the anti-Children remarks in this thread I have seen in the first page, I am truly disappointed with our human species in the 21st century... thank goodness I live in a country where people realize that kids will be kids and that active kids are NOT a result of bad parenting...
    I've yet to see a "breeder" comment in this thread. It's not anti-children, it's anti-RUDE. It is rude to allow your child to behave like Hellen Keller before the intervention. It just is. Nobody else should pay for the pleasure of listening to someone else's offspring have a full-blown meltdown.

    And to introduce another side to this issue, some adults with anxiety disorder can be triggered by the sensory overload caused by said child.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Responsible parents don't take kids out to nicer restaurants until they're old enough to behave and sit still through a longer meal. Some kids never make it. For them, there are plenty of family restaurants available for family dining:

    Red Robin
    Applebees
    Cracker Barel
    Cocos
    Bob's Big Boy

    Anyplace that gives the kids their own menu and crayons... that's where you take your kids. Most parents know that. A few don't get it and drag their little ones out to the Country Club or other upscale places. It's selfish on the part of the parents who are too clueless to realize their kids aren't ready.

    Selfish parents who are dragging their little kids to upscale nicer places should pay for a babysitter. Don't show your bad parenting skills off in public.
    Last edited by hazlnut; 09-12-10 at 12:53 PM.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    We all agree the restaurant has the right to do it, but we can still comment on the motivations behind it.

    I think people need to be more tolerant of each other. I've been in situations with screaming children and yes it's taxing on the nerves, but children are part of our society and our communities. Shutting them out just because they are children does not make sense to me.

    This restaurant's policy would make more sense if it targeted bad parenting, i.e. if a child is screaming and misbehaving, and the parent is doing nothing about it, then they should be asked to leave. I can only think of a handful of instances where I've been in populated, closed space (like a bus, restaurant, etc.) where a child was going crazy and the parent did nothing. MOST parents get stressed out by the idea that their child is annoying others and they want to put a stop to it right away.

    Target the bad parents, not all children. Anyway, from the looks of that diner, they don't exactly have the look and level of service that would demand more etiquette. They're a BBQ house and the owner is a little hoity toity.
    The rule is targetting the parents, as I doubt the kids care one way or the other whether they eat at home or at a restaurant. And if a kid screams a lot in restaurants, chances are, he doesn't want to be there.

    My child was not good at all in restaurants when he was little. It wasn't a matter of me being a bad parent (I dare anyone to say that to my face ). The answer? I just didn't take him to restaurants. I wasn't going to listen to that crap, why would I expect anyone else to? We exclusively did take out during those years. It wasn't a hardship. It was just the best thing for everyone.

    I lived it, and I have the scars. I'll be sympathetic to a point when another parent is going through it, but my patience isn't infinite. If you can't stop it, take the kid outside. Get. It. Out. Of. My. Space.


    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    When my mom was hospitalized, my daughter was two. She went to one of 'those homes' to stay for a week. When she got home, she thought a tantrum could be fun. She threw herself on the ground, and as she was drawing breath for her air raid siren, I hoisted her up by the cross straps of her coveralls, bounced her off her feet and landed her again while simultaneously hissing at her "We don't do that". Shut her RIGHT the hell up. That was her only tantrum and yes; she's an only child.
    That doesn't work for all kids, though. It would be nice if it did, but it doesn't work that way.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by StandUpChuck View Post
    That doesn't work for all kids, though. It would be nice if it did, but it doesn't work that way.
    Yes, I know. I pointed that out in several posts before this one. Not to mention the fact that my daughter is currently up-close and personal with hell right now, as she is dealing with two unruly toddlers.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    I voted, ‘Hell Yeah!’
    This correlates to the right of a private business owner to discriminate.
    That would be illegal if that's what they were doing.

    They're not discriminating, they're setting a very reasonable policy for their guests. Similar to 'no Cell Phones please', they advise guests to Keep your kids under control or take them for a walk. If it said 'we don't serve families' and the reason was because they are families, then they'd be in trouble.

    I said no because I prefer the crayon places like Cracker Barrel -- everybody's happy and my wife and I don't have to tag-team eat.

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    Re: Would you go to a restaurant that banned crying and screaming children?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Of course not... and with all of the anti-Children remarks in this thread I have seen in the first page, I am truly disappointed with our human species in the 21st century... thank goodness I live in a country where people realize that kids will be kids and that active kids are NOT a result of bad parenting...
    Yeah, but letting active kids ruin someone else's dinner--those parents (who have learned to tune their own kids out) sit there drinking wine and pretending everything's normal because Jr. always does this at home... THAT IS BAD PARENTING. They are teaching their kids that other people don't matter, instilling a sense of entitlement (every room is your playroom) and neglecting to teach them basic manners and a respect for others.

    As a parent of three and married to a 1st grade teacher, I know that 'Active kid' can be a legitimate behavioral issue or an excuse for poor and inconsistent parenting practices at home. 'Lower your voice.' 'Sit back down and finish your dinner.' Practice these at home before you take them on the road.

    When my youngest daughter had to be taken outside for a walk, she would be happy at first, thinking she got her way, but when she saw her brother and sister eating desert... Now, when we say, do you need to go outside? she lowers her voice and sits still.

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