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    Re: Are you going to burn a Koran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    Just a quick note to let you all know that my gardening club is holding a "compost the Koran" workshop today at 3, and you are all invited to attend.
    Finally, an environmentally friendly use for the Koran.
    So follow me into the desert
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    Re: Are you going to burn a Koran?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    How do you stop the preacher from burning the Koran? Easy. Just threaten to burn a Bible in retaliation.

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    And the religious war begins. It's this easy. Like I stated, if a single assasins bullet can suck an entire world into war, what will burning holy books lead too? I'm all about rights, but I'm also about brains.

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    Re: Are you going to burn a Koran?

    No.

    I feel no desire to insult an entire religion based on the actions of a fraction of it's believers.
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    Re: Are you going to burn a Koran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    No.

    I feel no desire to insult an entire religion based on the actions of a fraction of it's believers.
    You can't insult a religion. A religion is an organized set of superstitious beliefs and is not of itself a conscious being.

    You can insult the followers of a religion, though.

    Any particular reason the left is sparing muslims the scorn it routinely heaps upon Christians?
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    Re: Are you going to burn a Koran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    And the religious war begins. It's this easy. Like I stated, if a single assasins bullet can suck an entire world into war, what will burning holy books lead too? I'm all about rights, but I'm also about brains.
    Europe was going to fall into war, regardless. Princep Gavrillo is merely the spark that lit the fuse, he didn't build the powder keg and there were other sparks falling.

    If the world is going to go to war because the deluded followers of an archaic superstition can't make the transition to life in a civilized and free society, then the world is going to go to war anyway, and the individual spark that causes the conflagration is merely the one that worked. The timberlands dying in the drought of Islamic ignorance had been growing for hundreds of years, and some spark was going to ignite the flames eventually.

    But no one should be denied their freedom to do with his property as he pleases, merely because some ignorant emotional ass is threatening to harm innocents in retaliation. The retaliation on that fanatic and those that support him should be swift, terrible, and unforgettable. Americans cannot give up their basic freedoms to buy uncertain safety from anyone, let alone crazy-ass muslim fanatics who will only view such capitulation as a success and press for more concessions.

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    Re: Are you going to burn a Koran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You can't insult a religion. A religion is an organized set of superstitious beliefs and is not of itself a conscious being.

    You can insult the followers of a religion, though.
    Fine, if you insist on being anal-retentive.

    I have no desire to insult the FOLLOWERS of a religion based on the actions of a fraction of them.

    Any particular reason the left is sparing muslims the scorn it routinely heaps upon Christians?
    Not being able to speak for "the left", I couldnt tell you.

    For me personally, I feel no desire to burn bibles for the same reason, if it makes you feel any better.

    Tell me, why do you and others seem to think that just because I didnt specifically spell out every single inclusion and disclusion of an idea that it somehow means that I meant only the group that I said?

    I mean what I said was pretty clear; I dont want to insult people because some people are jerks. I never said Muslim or Christian or Buddhist, my statement was inclusive of anyone of any faith. I can only draw the conclusion that you WANTED to see that I was only talking about Muslims, so that's what you saw.

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    Re: Are you going to burn a Koran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    You can't insult a religion. A religion is an organized set of superstitious beliefs and is not of itself a conscious being.

    You can insult the followers of a religion, though.

    Any particular reason the left is sparing muslims the scorn it routinely heaps upon Christians?
    If you transcend the political garbage you may find yourself in a better place to learn. I am hardly the "left" and even I believe these wannabe burners are as radical as our enemies. We saw the very worst in Islam on 9/11. Burning Qur'ans on a ritual pyre of hatred can be the worst of Christianity (thus far). What do you think sits in the middle? -...the vast majority of Christians who see such activity as ignorant and insulting to their brand of Christianity.....and the vast majority of Muslims who are ashamed of their extremists.
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    Re: Are you going to burn a Koran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Europe was going to fall into war, regardless.
    Sure, it's Europe. But a single fanatic caved in the entire world. Many people believe in Samuel Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations." I happen to. What fanatic's senseless activity will cave us in? Let's start by needlessly offending a mass of people who haven't offended us. In the mean time, we dance around the fire and foolishly call it our right.



    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    But no one should be denied their freedom to do with his property as he pleases, merely because some ignorant emotional ass is threatening to harm innocents in retaliation. The retaliation on that fanatic and those that support him should be swift, terrible, and unforgettable. Americans cannot give up their basic freedoms to buy uncertain safety from anyone, let alone crazy-ass muslim fanatics who will only view such capitulation as a success and press for more concessions.
    And bigger retaliation ensues after bigger retaliation and bigger retaliation. And it all started because we as a free people weren't responsible enough to handle our freedoms more wisely and smack our own fanatics down. Of course, plenty that6 get sucked into the blood shed will simply accise the other of not being responsible enough to handle needless and senseless insults. In the end, a religious fantatic is a ****ing fanatic. Right now, Christianity has the upper hand. This can easily be changed by these very few.

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    Re: Are you going to burn a Koran?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Tell me, why do you and others seem to think that just because I didnt specifically spell out every single inclusion and disclusion of an idea that it somehow means that I meant only the group that I said?
    Because, when people make generalizations from statements they're no longer discussing what was said but what is thought was said.

    This leads to imprecision in the communication process.

    Gee, why would you ask that question of the person who corrected your misuse of the word "religion" when you apparently meant the followers of that religion?

    Personally, I believe that Islam is a barbaric religion that holds the minds of men back, denies the existence of minds in woman, and that therefore Islam is a cancer that threatens the very foundations of all civilized societies.

    Thus, I'm not especially anguished that someone is going to burn copies of the book the superstitious worship. The superstitious need to grow up, and that form of spanking is an inexpensive lesson. If it sparks the more extreme to move out of hiding and into the gunsights of our troops, that's all the better.

    Evolution, of course, is the process of killing the unfit before they can breed.

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    Re: Are you going to burn a Koran?

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Sure, it's Europe. But a single fanatic caved in the entire world. Many people believe in Samuel Huntington's "Clash of Civilizations." I happen to. What fanatic's senseless activity will cave us in? Let's start by needlessly offending a mass of people who haven't offended us. In the mean time, we dance around the fire and foolishly call it our right.
    Gee.

    Pay attention to where I said it was going to explode anyway.

    Also, Europe isn't "the entire world". There was never a good reason for the US to get involved. Japan and the Far East remained aloof. South America was never bothered by that silliness. It was a dying gasp of imperialism and it should have been left for the dying empires to deal with.

    Oh, and by the way, offence cannot be given, it must be accepted.

    And, finally, it's been our fight since PanAm Flight 103 was blown up. Americans died on that plane, including 22 students from Syracuse University.

    It was our fight when the muslims attacked the World Trade Center in 1993.

    It was still our fight when the Khobar Towers were bombed in Saudi Arabia in 1996.

    It was still our fight when Al Qaeda attacked three embassies in Kenya in on the same day in 1998.

    It most certainly was our fight when jihadists floated a canoe laden with exlosives against the hull of the USS Cole in Yemen in 2000.

    Needless to say, it was our fight when even more cowardly terrorists murdered thousands of American civillians on September 11, 2001.

    And all of the above was done in the name of Islam. And you're pretending to be a miliary man and saying that free people should refrain from insulting the animals that do what I just listed?

    No. America won't remain a free nation if we cower at the thought of offending the people who murder our citizens.


    And bigger retaliation ensues after bigger retaliation and bigger retaliation. And it all started because we as a free people weren't responsible enough to handle our freedoms more wisely and smack our own fanatics down. Of course, plenty that6 get sucked into the blood shed will simply accise the other of not being responsible enough to handle needless and senseless insults. In the end, a religious fantatic is a ****ing fanatic. Right now, Christianity has the upper hand. This can easily be changed by these very few.
    No. You're not foolish enough to actually imply we started anything. That's clearly some flaw in your ability to express yourself.

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