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    Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Where is the manufacturing? Not here in the US. Why do you buy the less expensive products made overseas? Probably because they are less expensive.
    What about outsourcing jobs to India? To other countries?
    Why do companies do that? Labor is less expensive!
    Companies go where labor is cheap! We go to where products are cheap!
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    Now, will US made products ever be as cheap as other countries? Nope.
    Will US labor ever be as cheap as other countries? Nope.
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    Will the US survive with companies outsourcing jobs?
    Will the US survive with imports that are half the price as ours?
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    Bottom Line..... should the US government provide heavy tariffs to US companies when they do outsource their jobs to another country?
    Should there be heavy tariffs on MOST imported products?
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    We get more value out of the WTO than we lose to outsourcing. Free trade is an overall net positive, even if it sometimes hurts individual sectors. A lot of out sourcing isn't actually even cost effective, but is simply the result of our idiotic fantasy land MBA driven cost cutting business culture.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Unless tariffs are universal and solely for tax collection purposes they are stupid.
    We shouldn't be protecting wasteful American jobs that require very minimal understanding to do.

    Manufacturing hasn't been leaving the states, it isn't growing as much because of work place efficiency, machinery and automation/robotics.

    I've witnessed this first hand.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Unless tariffs are universal and solely for tax collection purposes they are stupid.
    We shouldn't be protecting wasteful American jobs that require very minimal understanding to do.

    Manufacturing hasn't been leaving the states, it isn't growing as much because of work place efficiency, machinery and automation/robotics.

    I've witnessed this first hand.
    Christ! What if efficiency and effectiveness was a PRIORITY in the US????
    Plus..... American companies were forced to use... *GASP* American workers?
    (plus imports were Tariffed..... thus the US govt could get that $$$)
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle
    Bottom Line..... should the US government provide heavy tariffs to US companies when they do outsource their jobs to another country?
    Should there be heavy tariffs on MOST imported products?
    I'm strongly opposed to both. Ideally there would be no tariffs at all, and the only trade barriers would be for quality control. And even then, it would only be for LEGITIMATE quality concerns, rather than as an excuse to keep foreign products out. I know that that won't happen anytime soon, but it's my hope that eventually we'll have a trade regime like that.



    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle
    Christ! What if efficiency and effectiveness was a PRIORITY in the US????
    Plus..... American companies were forced to use... *GASP* American workers?
    (plus imports were Tariffed..... thus the US govt could get that $$$)
    No. That just raises consumer prices and promotes inefficiency in business. The market is becoming more global. If we shield our companies from competition, then eventually they won't be able to compete. That's exactly why American automobiles are (with some exceptions) not as good as Japanese automobiles.

    I think Harry's point about automation is that most people ACCEPT the fact that companies replace American workers with robots, because the robots can do the same job more efficiently and cheaper. People chalk it up to progress and don't worry about it. But apply that exact same logic to foreigners instead of to robots, and suddenly people start to panic.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Let's start replacing foreign workers with robots. Then it won't matter where your manufacturing business resides.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Where is the manufacturing? Not here in the US. Why do you buy the less expensive products made overseas? Probably because they are less expensive.
    What about outsourcing jobs to India? To other countries?
    Why do companies do that? Labor is less expensive!
    Companies go where labor is cheap! We go to where products are cheap!
    ------
    Now, will US made products ever be as cheap as other countries? Nope.
    Will US labor ever be as cheap as other countries? Nope.
    ------
    Will the US survive with companies outsourcing jobs?
    Will the US survive with imports that are half the price as ours?
    ------
    Bottom Line..... should the US government provide heavy tariffs to US companies when they do outsource their jobs to another country?
    Should there be heavy tariffs on MOST imported products?
    Tariffs should be imposed on companies who outsource mostly to save on labor. The US government should not engage in allowing or encouraging companies to outsource seeing how this causes American companies to outsource and severely disadvantages Americans companies who don't. Those who consider or call themselves patriotic Americans should not be tolerating outsourcing or globalism in any form. OUr founding forefathers imposed tarrifs because they knew American companies could not compete with cheaper imported goods. Our politicians jobs is to serve the American people, they are employees of all American people.So politicians should not be tossing the salad of only the corporations.


    BTW if a company packed up shop and moved overseas to have their things made is it really an American company?
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Let's start replacing foreign workers with robots. Then it won't matter where your manufacturing business resides.
    Robots have to be maintained,occasionally fixed and occasional replaced with more efficient models. Robots do not do these things themselves. Nor do robots completely do every thing even in automated factories. So it would still matter where your manufacturing business resides.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    You mean it's not an accepted fact that taxing companies more means that we lose more business? Why can't people see unintended consequences? It's not that hard.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    I don't think we need tariffs, but we should pass laws that businesses should comply with US regulations in their outside of country facilities for things like health, safety, and environment if those goods are made the the US market. (unless the host country's regulations are more strict)

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