View Poll Results: Should there be Tariffs?

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  • YES! Bring back jobs to America!

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  • No! Free Trade! Its good for the US in the long run

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  • Tariff Companies in MOST cases!

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Thread: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Free trade is a level playing field.
    There are no artificial barriers of trade.
    Those who outsource are a greater advantage than those who do not. So it is not level. Its like giving one duelist a plastic pellet gun and the other real gun and calling a level playing field.


    That assumes that the cheap labor is bad.
    It is if that cheap labor is over seas,ensures that America does not produce its own goods and costs Americans their job as a result.

    You may think that someone working in a sweatshop is being exploited because you're viewing it from an American perspective.
    The if they do not know they are slaves then are they really slaves logic.

    If you take that job away from them and they starve to death who have you helped?
    I could care less about some foreigner. Besides that they did not have those jobs before outsourcing.

    Tariffs only make a consumer pay more for an item than they would have otherwise.
    Like what an extra 50 cents or a buck or two?
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I agree with you 100%....I still think you are sounding like a Democrat ;-)
    Wasn't it a democrat president who gave us NAFTA & WTO? Seems to me the republicans who pretend they are patriotic while supporting outsourcing and globalization are the ones acting like democrats.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by b.larset View Post
    I understand about technology making our lives easier. As for the benefit of free trade I want my manufacturing back, I want technology dominance and economic security. I want an America that is in the best possible position to lead a world with strength thru fairness.
    So only manufacturing produces wealth? Then why do you tip your waiter for the work he has done?

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Wasn't it a democrat president who gave us NAFTA & WTO? Seems to me the republicans who pretend they are patriotic while supporting outsourcing and globalization are the ones acting like democrats.
    Unfortunately....yes it was. However, Clinton, in many ways was way to moderate. If you follow the tenants of the Democratic party, NAFTA would not have been passed and the bailouts....those are both much more in line with the GOP than the DNC.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post

    The if they do not know they are slaves then are they really slaves logic.
    In a sense, everyone who works for a boss is a slave, no matter which country or how much the pay. You can always quit, but you'll still be a slave on the next job.

    ricksfolly

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    In a sense, everyone who works for a boss is a slave, no matter which country or how much the pay. You can always quit, but you'll still be a slave on the next job.

    ricksfolly
    In other words, a voluntary slave.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    In other words, a voluntary slave.
    A slave to the notion that life MUST be lived according to various standards.

    Those standars being:
    Internet access
    Telephones - more importantly - a cell phone
    Cable or Satellite TV
    Cars and auto related things like maintenance and so forth.
    Food - lots of it - because we're all very fat and need to maintain our tubby tummies.
    Clothes - new ones every year, shoes too.
    A decent house - mortgage
    Or a decent house / appartment - rent.

    You know - this is where people feel they MUST put their money and their decision to have some or all of these things, and more, is the reason why they work.

    If someone didn't want ANY of those things - they could live without being gainfully employed.

    People are purely slaves to their selves and their perception of society and waht society wants them to be. . . nothing more, no one else.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    A slave to the notion that life MUST be lived according to various standards.
    What happens away from your job has nothing to with how your boss treats you.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    What happens away from your job has nothing to with how your boss treats you.

    ricksfolly
    If a boss is a dick then why do people put up with it?
    There are quite a few means of dealing with such tripe - rules and regulations that help protect the employee. No one is every forced to tolerate someone else's ****. . . they just think they are or feel they're compelled to because something else is at stake.

    I've never had a dick for a boss - I've always gotten along with my managers and employees. . . so I don't draw the conclusion that all bosses are assholes.

    Not saying that boss' aren't assholes and don't get away with it - of course some are and some do. But most don't.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    A slave to the notion that life MUST be lived according to various standards.

    Those standars being:
    Internet access
    Telephones - more importantly - a cell phone
    Cable or Satellite TV
    Cars and auto related things like maintenance and so forth.
    Food - lots of it - because we're all very fat and need to maintain our tubby tummies.
    Clothes - new ones every year, shoes too.
    A decent house - mortgage
    Or a decent house / appartment - rent.

    You know - this is where people feel they MUST put their money and their decision to have some or all of these things, and more, is the reason why they work.

    If someone didn't want ANY of those things - they could live without being gainfully employed.

    People are purely slaves to their selves and their perception of society and waht society wants them to be. . . nothing more, no one else.
    This is definitely representative of the 1st world.
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