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Thread: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Tariffs will not help, what will is time. As the economies of the developing countries grow, the cost of outsourcing there increases and will eventually lead to the jobs moving back to the US anyway. However, what we will see, I think, is the creation of manufacturing areas in all developed nations. As a consumer base is created in nations where work goes and the cost of transporting the goods increases, there will come a need to produce in each nation, what that nation consumes. So it will all balance out in the end, in the meantime the only thing that will come from placing high tariffs is that nations like China will do so on our exports making it harder to sell US made goods abroad.
    BULL****.

    Time means nothing while the same collection of pampered anti-Americans gets richer by destroying the middle class. No. Tariffs need to be 90% or better for
    ALL OUTSOURCED LABOR. Make the republicocksuckers pay out their greedy assholes until they stop sending jobs to third world hell holes.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Here's my plan to create jobs.

    1. Block out the sun, seriously it provides all that light and warmth with no remuneration.

    2. Destroy all computers and the internet.
    Why have a computer do, what 5 people can do.

    3. Destroy all tractors.
    It saves so much on labor, it's just another form of outsourcing.
    Aka, evil.

    Those 3 things alone should provide enough jobs that all of America will be employed.



    More backwards, anti-American rhetoric.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    More backwards, anti-American rhetoric.
    You are just a delight.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    You are just a delight.
    I just tell it like it is.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    You realize that protectionism makes American companies less productive right?Even the nationalistic argument fails. Protectionism is only practical whereby you secure your ability to defend yourself (in other words, if you get in a war, you want to be able to produce war goods rather than rely on a company that you might be at war with).
    How does ensuring American companies have a level playing field with non-American companies less productive? And how is an American company still an American company if it outsourced? That doesn't make any ****en sense, Calling a company that outsources an American company makes as much sense as calling Theodore Alvin Hall an American Patriot
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    More backwards, anti-American rhetoric.
    Why?
    It will create jobs and eliminate all the outsourcing that the sun does, as well as machines.

    Less machines requires more people, aka more jobs.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Great rebuttal.
    My point was it was a perfect response to other non-sensical statements that defy logic AND common sense. Like this like gem ............

    Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla
    Here's my plan to create jobs.

    1. Block out the sun, seriously it provides all that light and warmth with no remuneration.

    2. Destroy all computers and the internet.
    Why have a computer do, what 5 people can do.

    3. Destroy all tractors.
    It saves so much on labor, it's just another form of outsourcing.
    Aka, evil.

    Those 3 things alone should provide enough jobs that all of America will be employed.
    That to ME makes no practical, logical or rational parallel to the subject in this thread.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    The cost of products is always passed onto the consumer.

    If a company has to pay more taxes - the price of their items go up.
    If they have to pay fees and fines - that's passed on, too.
    The customer is where all of their profit comes from. So if you were to raise taxes, fees, etc - then would only pass it on to the customer.

    If we were providing these jobs for minimum wage in the US - then the cost of products would go up for several reasons: #1: base cost for products being imported will increase because everything's just more expensive to secure and distribute in the US. #2: taxes and fees, obviously, would increase in a variety of ways. #3: The cost for utilities (water, electric) would increase. #4: Pay and salary would increase - even *more so* when you have Union employees.

    All of this is trickle-down overhead and expense which would just make these products *more* expensive. Who would be buying these more expensive items?
    Do you truly feel that people would KEEP buying things they don't actually NEED if they are more - and more - expensive?

    Worldwide the trend is: spend LESS, cover your basics, SAVE your surplus.

    The suggestion of bringing jobs *back* to the US or raising taxes and fees, etc, would just make our current worldwide economic situation WORSE - not better.

    It won't solve any problems. It'll create more problems.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    The cost of products is always passed onto the consumer.

    If a company has to pay more taxes - the price of their items go up.
    If they have to pay fees and fines - that's passed on, too.
    The customer is where all of their profit comes from. So if you were to raise taxes, fees, etc - then would only pass it on to the customer.

    If we were providing these jobs for minimum wage in the US - then the cost of products would go up for several reasons: #1: base cost for products being imported will increase because everything's just more expensive to secure and distribute in the US. #2: taxes and fees, obviously, would increase in a variety of ways. #3: The cost for utilities (water, electric) would increase. #4: Pay and salary would increase - even *more so* when you have Union employees.

    All of this is trickle-down overhead and expense which would just make these products *more* expensive. Who would be buying these more expensive items?
    Do you truly feel that people would KEEP buying things they don't actually NEED if they are more - and more - expensive?

    Worldwide the trend is: spend LESS, cover your basics, SAVE your surplus.

    The suggestion of bringing jobs *back* to the US or raising taxes and fees, etc, would just make our current worldwide economic situation WORSE - not better.

    It won't solve any problems. It'll create more problems.
    Costs are only passed on as competition allows, often a company has no choice but to absorb cost increases.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Patriotism involves more than just waving a flag and saying you support the troops. Waving a flag and saying I support the troops does not mean squat if you encourage lots of decent paying jobs to ship over seas by removing tariffs. By allowing these companies to outsource we are supporting the economy of communist countries and we put ourselves at their mercy of these other countries because we decided to let them make our stuff. I do not believe in selling your country out for cheap goods and globalism. Anyone calling themselves patriotic should oppose outsourcing and globalism
    I agree with you 100%....I still think you are sounding like a Democrat ;-)
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