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Thread: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Tariffs will not help, what will is time. As the economies of the developing countries grow, the cost of outsourcing there increases and will eventually lead to the jobs moving back to the US anyway. However, what we will see, I think, is the creation of manufacturing areas in all developed nations. As a consumer base is created in nations where work goes and the cost of transporting the goods increases, there will come a need to produce in each nation, what that nation consumes. So it will all balance out in the end, in the meantime the only thing that will come from placing high tariffs is that nations like China will do so on our exports making it harder to sell US made goods abroad.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Tariffs should be imposed on companies who outsource mostly to save on labor. The US government should not engage in allowing or encouraging companies to outsource seeing how this causes American companies to outsource and severely disadvantages Americans companies who don't. Those who consider or call themselves patriotic Americans should not be tolerating outsourcing or globalism in any form. OUr founding forefathers imposed tarrifs because they knew American companies could not compete with cheaper imported goods. Our politicians jobs is to serve the American people, they are employees of all American people.So politicians should not be tossing the salad of only the corporations.


    BTW if a company packed up shop and moved overseas to have their things made is it really an American company?
    James...you are sounding like a Democrat
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    James...you are sounding like a Democrat
    No, he's sounding like a real Republican. These are the guys that say they're for capitalism, but they're really just corporatists. The bailout happened under Republicans with Republican support and the steel tarriffs happened under a Republican presdient with Republican support.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    I think you are failing to realise the mess your country is in, it isn't because of protectionism or welfare bums. Ironically the mess you are in is directly attributable to libertarian economic policies.
    Here's my plan to create jobs.

    1. Block out the sun, seriously it provides all that light and warmth with no remuneration.

    2. Destroy all computers and the internet.
    Why have a computer do, what 5 people can do.

    3. Destroy all tractors.
    It saves so much on labor, it's just another form of outsourcing.
    Aka, evil.

    Those 3 things alone should provide enough jobs that all of America will be employed.



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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    No, he's sounding like a real Republican. These are the guys that say they're for capitalism, but they're really just corporatists. The bailout happened under Republicans with Republican support and the steel tarriffs happened under a Republican presdient with Republican support.
    Since when have Republicans cared about the outsourcing of American jobs? Especially as long as their base profits from it?
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    The ability to live outside our productive capacity (and our own labor costs) is so beneficial to Americans, that many of them now take it for granted.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Since when have Republicans cared about the outsourcing of American jobs? Especially as long as their base profits from it?
    A business is going to draw a profit margin, whether or not, a job is done inside or outside the U.S.

    Why make the consumer pay more, just so some joe blow can have an inefficient job?
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    James...you are sounding like a Democrat

    Patriotism involves more than just waving a flag and saying you support the troops. Waving a flag and saying I support the troops does not mean squat if you encourage lots of decent paying jobs to ship over seas by removing tariffs. By allowing these companies to outsource we are supporting the economy of communist countries and we put ourselves at their mercy of these other countries because we decided to let them make our stuff. I do not believe in selling your country out for cheap goods and globalism. Anyone calling themselves patriotic should oppose outsourcing and globalism
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Patriotism involves more than just waving a flag and saying you support the troops. Waving a flag and saying I support the troops does not mean squat if you encourage lots of decent paying jobs to ship over seas by removing tariffs. By allowing these companies to outsource we are supporting the economy of communist countries and we put ourselves at their mercy of these other countries because we decided to let them make our stuff. I do not believe in selling your country out for cheap goods and globalism. Anyone calling themselves patriotic should oppose outsourcing and globalism
    James, notice how the more we buy stuff from China, the less likely they want to kill us?

    Patriotism is overrated.
    Whats the difference between a Chinese family trying to earn a living and an American family trying the same thing?
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Patriotism involves more than just waving a flag and saying you support the troops. Waving a flag and saying I support the troops does not mean squat if you encourage lots of decent paying jobs to ship over seas by removing tariffs. By allowing these companies to outsource we are supporting the economy of communist countries and we put ourselves at their mercy of these other countries because we decided to let them make our stuff. I do not believe in selling your country out for cheap goods and globalism. Anyone calling themselves patriotic should oppose outsourcing and globalism
    You realize that protectionism makes American companies less productive right? Even the nationalistic argument fails. Protectionism is only practical whereby you secure your ability to defend yourself (in other words, if you get in a war, you want to be able to produce war goods rather than rely on a company that you might be at war with).

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