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Thread: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    hey....HEY! Yo! My Italian heritage says read this:
    I love your opinions but youre wrong.
    CORPORATE GREED AND UNION GREED
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    DESTROYING THE BEST OF AMERICA ONE DAY AT A TIME

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Arrrgh, cheap goods are BAD!
    If they cost American jobs, YES THEY ARE!

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    The whole idea with moving manufacturing outside of the US to china .. and other third world economies was to exploit the cheap labour. The idea was that American and other western economies would "mature" and move away from agriculture/manufacturing etc into new economies. This was the idea that made globalism something worth trying for. Like IT and biological engineering. But the plan kinda backfired. IT .COM bubble burst back in 2001 or so and Biotech was supposed to be right around the corner. Information technological workers are already being reduced by more and more advanced operating systems.. What did boom was the service sector but for the most part it created low paying low quality jobs. So economists who have been trying to engineer this global economy have really failed society. The creation of new advanced economic activity that is more profitable then manufacturing has outright failed. Our inability to compete with third world nations has become obvious and we don’t have alternative markets to compete in because they can manage just as well it appears.

    The housing bubble which is just a financial scam to create wealth at the top was clearly a desperate hope and the last trick we had up our sleeves. It did fail considerably more quickly then they had originally suspected as a result of deregulated financial practices like derivatives.(hurray for unregulated business!) The third world labour market is way behind and we still cannot compete with them directly on much anything.

    So now your the bag holder of the global economy.. grats. If the US economy collapses.. which it will because of your expanding trade deficit where you export all your wealth you borrowed from the people you buy things from.. the global economy fails. Your debt is fuelling their economies. Your multinational corporations are directly profiting from your debt.. all the while moving their ships and wealth to a whole other countries beyond your political reach. In the end they will make off like bandits. Your endless consumption of stuff made in what would be considered slavery here has done nothing but put your economy in ruins.

    The only way out for America is to manufacture and export but now business will want you to compete with un-unionised slave labour from China. Welcome to unrestrained markets, capitalism at its finest and building castles in the sky.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    hey....HEY! Yo! My Italian heritage says read this:
    I love your opinions but youre wrong.
    Great rebuttal.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    The only way out for America is to manufacture and export but now business will want you to compete with un-unionised slave labour from China. Welcome to unrestrained markets, capitalism at its finest and building castles in the sky.
    Yet we've all been growing richer. Explain.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Your fooling yourself on that.


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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Yet we've all been growing richer. Explain.
    People have been using the same turd arguments for protectionism for the past 200 years.
    If Bastiat didn't convince them way back when, not much will do so now.

    History repeats itself again and again.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    I think you are failing to realise the mess your country is in, it isn't because of protectionism or welfare bums. Ironically the mess you are in is directly attributable to libertarian economic policies.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    I think you are failing to realise the mess your country is in, it isn't because of protectionism or welfare bums. Ironically the mess you are in is directly attributable to libertarian economic policies.
    Right, inflation and high taxation have no economic ills associated with them.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Your fooling yourself on that.

    And I counter Naomi Klein (at least I think that's who it is) with Drew Carey.



    And a nice political cartoon here.

    RedPlanetCartoons » About That Shrinking Middle Class…

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