View Poll Results: Should there be Tariffs?

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  • Tariff Companies in MOST cases!

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Thread: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    it has? i think it's affected everyone. white, blue and pink.
    Degree holders have a higher incidence of unemployment than non degree holders.
    Yes everyone has lost jobs though.



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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Degree holders have a higher incidence of unemployment than non degree holders.
    Yes everyone has lost jobs though.



    not by much, though.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    personally, i don't care all that much about the people in other countries when my fellow americans don't have jobs. tariffs on imported vehicles makes sense, our vehicles are taxed to the max in foreign countries. good for the goose. any countru that imposes tariffs on o0ur goods needs the same imposed on their goods.
    I care about total progression of people and am not exclusive to America because we're all just people.

    We live by high standards here, I don't mind spreading that around, through natural consequences.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    not by much, though.
    Did you run the statistics to prove that the difference is no significant? You can't really eyeball that a 20% difference is not significant.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Where is the manufacturing? Not here in the US. Why do you buy the less expensive products made overseas? Probably because they are less expensive.
    What about outsourcing jobs to India? To other countries?
    Why do companies do that? Labor is less expensive!
    Companies go where labor is cheap! We go to where products are cheap!
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    Now, will US made products ever be as cheap as other countries? Nope.
    Will US labor ever be as cheap as other countries? Nope.
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    Will the US survive with companies outsourcing jobs?
    Will the US survive with imports that are half the price as ours?
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    Bottom Line..... should the US government provide heavy tariffs to US companies when they do outsource their jobs to another country?
    Should there be heavy tariffs on MOST imported products?
    Tarriffs are not put on corporations, they are put on counties. I believe to punish a corporation would be a "Bill of attainder" (Article I Section 9) and thus would be unconstitutional.


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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    We get more value out of the WTO than we lose to outsourcing. Free trade is an overall net positive, even if it sometimes hurts individual sectors. A lot of out sourcing isn't actually even cost effective, but is simply the result of our idiotic fantasy land MBA driven cost cutting business culture.
    It's only positive to the corporate scum who sent jobs overseas. To those who lose thier jobs to outsourced labor ... there is no positive gain. I say we outsource all of the corporate officer positions and see how much the other half likes getting bent over.
    Last edited by Vader; 09-09-10 at 03:58 AM.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    I'm on the fence about this.

    On the one hand I want American jobs protected.

    On the other hand this may hurt the poor as prices will rise to make the difference and then we are stuck with the same problem.

    The first thing that needs to happen is abolishing the Federal Reserve System and stop the massive spending on wars, bases overseas, bailouts etc etc.

    I don't think we have to necesarrily go back to the gold standard but we do need sound money.

    When that happens we won't need minimum wage anymore as the inflation will stop.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Protectionism is making us richer at the cost of making us poorer.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    How long of a run till free trade starts payin off ? How long must I wait for free trade to be good for me? Why Do you have to say ," In the long run".? Why cant you say now? If its good Bro why aint it F$%^ing good now? Stop saying what someone else did because its what everybody does .
    Free trade is not good in any run long or short. How do you deal with the a communist country that has a closed economic system and totalitarian millatary regime to keep the profits in the system. While advancing the causes of the Communist political sysytem? So you trade into a closed system and to benefit you goobers they buy your treasurys ( Putting Pressure on your national credit rating )by dealing your economy a blow you have less revenue now. Ok I call that Economic warfare and your loosing ; but your a free trader. Say it with me. Let it roll off your lips and push it out into the air with your tounge- Free Trader, FREE TRADER, Freeeee Traaader,; Ummm God-thats soooooooo ohhhhh yehhh. The romanticism of Capitalism- it is that simple.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by b.larset View Post
    How long of a run till free trade starts payin off ? How long must i wait for free trade to be good for me? and why Do you have to say ," In the long run".? Why cant you say now? If its good Bro why aint it F$%^ing good now? Stop saying what someone else did because its what everybody does.
    Free trade is not good in any run long or short. 1. how do you deal with the a communist country that has a closed economic system and totalitarian millatary regime to keep the profits in the system for advancing the causes of the Communist political sysytem? so you trade into a closed system and to benefit you goobers they buy your treasurys. Ok I call that Economic warfare and your loosing ; but your a free trader. Say it with me. Let it roll off your lips and push it out into the air with your tounge- Free Trader, FREE TRADER, Freeeee Traaader,; Ummm God-thats soooooooo ohhhhh yehhh.
    It benefits you now.
    You still have cheap toothbrushes and many other things that haven't crazily go up in price.
    If they were made here, you can guarantee that they would have.

    China has a somewhat joint venture economic system, money leaves them in the form of buying advanced technology and other things to make our stuff.
    It may not be completely equal but it does help everyone involved.
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