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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    The point was about workers being slaves to bosses, not how the bosses treat workers. I agree that some bosses can be dicks and some can be sweeties, but they are still bosses with the power to shape lives... They who must be obeyed...

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    And if you don't want to obey you can quit. I don't think a slave ever had that decision. If he wanted to quit he would be whipped.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    We need tariffs in this country to counter the natural desire of greed and screwing over your fellow Noodle.
    CORPORATE GREED AND UNION GREED
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    DESTROYING THE BEST OF AMERICA ONE DAY AT A TIME

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    We need tariffs in this country to counter the natural desire of greed and screwing over your fellow Noodle.
    Greed is why we have so much wealth today. If it weren't for greed, why would we work so much? To make the world a better place?

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Smith
    It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    So - really - nothing's changed.

    Government will always look for new reasons and ways to get money from people - all or some.
    People will always look for new reasons and ways to keep that said money from the government - all or some.

    Since the dawn of money - this has been the ritual.
    A screaming comes across the sky.
    It has happened before, but there is nothing to compare it to now.
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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    So - really - nothing's changed.

    Government will always look for new reasons and ways to get money from people - all or some.
    People will always look for new reasons and ways to keep that said money from the government - all or some.

    Since the dawn of money - this has been the ritual.
    No, you're not being persecuted... Just pay your taxes like everyone else and your stomach ache will go away.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    I think we should only have tariffs in very limited cases. Really only to protect certain small developing industries from foreign competition to allow them to become established. This is really limited though, since the US has a very mature economy. Ror almost all of our industries this should not apply, and the benefits of trade should be realized.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    I think we should only have tariffs in very limited cases. Really only to protect certain small developing industries from foreign competition to allow them to become established. This is really limited though, since the US has a very mature economy. Ror almost all of our industries this should not apply, and the benefits of trade should be realized.
    Because of a barrier to entry? Any industry has a barrier to entry. If it's profitable here we'll produce it here, we'd get foreign investors to do it if we did not have the ability ourselves to do it. Frankly, if it's not here without tarriffs, then it just isn't practical to do here.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    Because of a barrier to entry? Any industry has a barrier to entry. If it's profitable here we'll produce it here, we'd get foreign investors to do it if we did not have the ability ourselves to do it. Frankly, if it's not here without tarriffs, then it just isn't practical to do here.
    Does every industry have a barrier to entry that is same size? no. Does every industry that has a large barrier of entry need to be protected? no. But certain ones could be beneficial. Just look at agriculture and manufacturing in the US during the 1800's. Those industries developed quite well, in fact to be the best in the world. I am not saying we need tariffs on manufacturing and agriculture now (we definetly don't and shouldn't), but for certain and specific developing industries it could be beneficial. Also, we would have to make sure we do get rid of the tariff once the industry does become competitive.
    Last edited by drz-400; 09-22-10 at 07:59 PM.

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    Does every industry have a barrier to entry that is same size? no. Does every industry that has a large barrier of entry need to be protected? no. But certain ones could be beneficial. Just look at agriculture and manufacturing in the US during the 1800's. Those industries developed quite well, in fact to be the best in the world. I am not saying we need tariffs on manufacturing and agriculture now (we definetly don't and shouldn't), but for certain and specific developing industries it could be beneficial.
    If it was worthwhile then why wouldn't foreign investors just bring the industries here themselves? And just because we've had tarriffs and industries have done well does not mean that the tarriffs were worthwhile. Who's to say it wasn't mere coincidence that agriculture and manufacturing expanded. Maybe they would have done that if left alone. Furthermore, how do we quantify the negative effects that this has on other industries (and consumers as well)?

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    Re: Does America Need Tariffs on US Corporations?

    Quote Originally Posted by drz-400 View Post
    I think we should only have tariffs in very limited cases. Really only to protect certain small developing industries from foreign competition to allow them to become established. This is really limited though, since the US has a very mature economy. Ror almost all of our industries this should not apply, and the benefits of trade should be realized.
    Ok, but who decides what, when, and how much? You may have to create another government bureau.

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