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  • swearing/being rude in his/her private time.

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  • smoking pot in his/her private time.

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  • Who cares what teacher do in their private lives?

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Thread: A Teacher's Private Life

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    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Where in their contracts does it say or ask this though? Do you ever wonder why many good teachers leave the profession?

    Nowhere. Want to know why good teachers leave the profession? most of the kids today are spoiled brats who don't give a rat's ass about learning anything. the administrators are so afraid that they might get sued that they give the teachers zero support. And if you dare try to discipline any of the little bastards, the parents raise holy hell.

    I taught in public school for 10 years and I finally couldn't stand it any longer. The last year I taught, I had a parent/teacher conference with the mother of a troublemaker who was failing my class. Sitting in the principal's office with the kid, his mother and the principal. The principal asked the mother a question and she started to answer. The kid looked at her and said, "shut the **** up" and she did. I stood up looked at my boss and said, "there's your problem" and walked out.
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    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    -- The last year I taught, I had a parent/teacher conference with the mother of a troublemaker who was failing my class. Sitting in the principal's office with the kid, his mother and the principal. The principal asked the mother a question and she started to answer. The kid looked at her and said, "shut the **** up" and she did. I stood up looked at my boss and said, "there's your problem" and walked out.
    And I'll bet some would see it all as your fault.

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    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I did not respond to the poll because there was not an option I could agree with. There are some things a teacher might do in their private life that should be reported, but these weren't among them.
    QED.

    If the teacher was using CHILD pornography, I'd report that. If the teacher was abusing a child, I'd report that. If the teacher was selling drugs in my neighborhood, I'd report that. The only criminal activity I'd report would be that which has bearing on their role as a teacher. The rest is none of my business.

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    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    And I'll bet some would see it all as your fault.

    Once had a mother complain because I wasn't teaching her kid to behave. The kid was 17 years old and still in 9th grade. I told her, "Look lady, I can't do in one hour a day what you have failed to do in 17 years" She didn't like that. she complained to the principal. he called me into his office to chew me out. I told him to go **** himself because I had tenure. He said he would make sure I had the worst schedule possible the next year. I told him I already did and he could once again go **** himelf.

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    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Once had a mother complain because I wasn't teaching her kid to behave. The kid was 17 years old and still in 9th grade. I told her, "Look lady, I can't do in one hour a day what you have failed to do in 17 years" She didn't like that. she complained to the principal. he called me into his office to chew me out. I told him to go **** himself because I had tenure. He said he would make sure I had the worst schedule possible the next year. I told him I already did and he could once again go **** himelf.
    Ha!

    The books we could write eh? And I laugh at the exhalted status people think we are supposed to have!

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    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    What they do in their private time is their private time, thats why it is "private"

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    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    But only for the time they are paid as teachers. I know they are held to some mythical higher standard by some - however they should then be compensated for it - financially or professionally. Oh, and nowhere in any teacher job description I've seen does it say set an example in your private life. It's bad enough they have to take so much work home (unpaid and uncompensated).
    Almost every state has a teacher's contract that includes a morals clause. You can argue against it, but it's there nonetheless. They sign the contract or they don't. It's their choice. Grounds for dismisal after due process include:

    •Immoral conduct or indecent behavior
    •INCOMPETENCY
    •Violations of ethical standards
    •Unprofessional conduct
    •Misrepresentation or FRAUD
    •Willful neglect of duty

    This link lists by state reasons for dismissing even a tenured teacher after due process. Teachers' Rights: Encyclopedia of Everyday Law
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    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Almost every state has a teacher's contract that includes a morals clause. You can argue against it, but it's there nonetheless. They sign the contract or they don't. It's their choice. Grounds for dismisal after due process include:

    •Immoral conduct or indecent behavior
    •INCOMPETENCY
    •Violations of ethical standards
    •Unprofessional conduct
    •Misrepresentation or FRAUD
    •Willful neglect of duty

    This link lists by state reasons for dismissing even a tenured teacher after due process. Teachers' Rights: Encyclopedia of Everyday Law
    And we wonder why our education system is ever falling in stature in comparison to the rest of the world! We expect top, professional people to take jobs of low pay all the while holding a microscope over their life and wanting them to be saints as well!

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    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Almost every state has a teacher's contract that includes a morals clause. You can argue against it, but it's there nonetheless. They sign the contract or they don't. It's their choice. Grounds for dismisal after due process include:

    •INCOMPETENCY
    •Violations of ethical standards
    •Unprofessional conduct
    •Misrepresentation or FRAUD
    •Willful neglect of duty
    I don't have any problems with firing a teacher for these reasons. however, I think this is probably outdated:


    •Immoral conduct or indecent behavior

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    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I don't have any problems with firing a teacher for these reasons. however, I think this is probably outdated:
    Yeah, my first question was "Immoral according to whom? Whose morals?"

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