View Poll Results: I would report it to the boss if he/she was....

Voters
64. You may not vote on this poll
  • watching porn in his/her private time.

    0 0%
  • swearing/being rude in his/her private time.

    0 0%
  • smoking pot in his/her private time.

    8 12.50%
  • having affairs in his/her private time.

    0 0%
  • Who cares what teacher do in their private lives?

    56 87.50%
Page 12 of 15 FirstFirst ... 21011121314 ... LastLast
Results 111 to 120 of 145

Thread: A Teacher's Private Life

  1. #111
    Sage


    MaggieD's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Location
    Chicago Area
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    43,243
    Blog Entries
    43

    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Ah yes, butter wouldn't melt.
    What are you talking about?

    Here are my posts are on this thread:

    I didn't choose any on the list, but I do think that teachers in grade school/highschool especially should be held to some kind of morals clause -- and many of them are. Conviction of certain felonies would do it for me -- even if probation were allowed. Stalking, sex crimes. TRO's for cause. An affair with a student. Those kinds of things.
    I agree. It's about what happens AFTER they're hired I'm talking about.
    While I wouldn't make that particular report myself, I think it's dangerous to equate reporting criminal activity to being a tattle-tale. If there were young children in the house, however, I think I probably would.
    Disagree. Many school teachers don't like to live in the same town they teach in -- because their private lives are held to a higher standard. You can't just draw the line at "illegal," imo. If a teacher doesn't like being held to a higher standard, they should change professions. Teachers, by their very job description, should be examples. And good ones.
    Almost every state has a teacher's contract that includes a morals clause. You can argue against it, but it's there nonetheless. They sign the contract or they don't. It's their choice. Grounds for dismisal after due process include:

    •Immoral conduct or indecent behavior
    •INCOMPETENCY
    •Violations of ethical standards
    •Unprofessional conduct
    •Misrepresentation or FRAUD
    •Willful neglect of duty

    This link lists by state reasons for dismissing even a tenured teacher after due process. Teachers' Rights: Encyclopedia of Everyday Law
    If he was getting his BJ on his front porch at high noon and people saw it, I'd certainly hope so. ;-)
    I don't know that it makes a distinction between what someone does in the classroom or does out in the open a block away. The fact remains that it's a contract a teacher signs. If they don't like it, they don't have to sign it, and don't have to work there. Seems to me that's the long-and-short of it.
    I don't hear any drums.
    Last edited by MaggieD; 09-08-10 at 03:01 PM.
    The devil whispered in my ear, "You cannot withstand the storm." I whispered back, "I am ​the storm."

  2. #112
    Global Moderator
    The Truth is out there.
    Kal'Stang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bonners Ferry ID USA
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,886
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    We already have laws against driving while under the influence, so want to try again?
    Yeah so? And there are still people that drive while under the influence right? And what happens when they are caught? That's right, they go to jail. Why do they go to jail? Two reasons. 1: They broke the law. 2: By putting them in jail they are no longer a risk to society. So nope, no need to try again. You just need to think things through to their logical conclusion.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Apparently, you have not met many pot smokers.
    I've met lots. Hell it's a national past time in the town I live in, especially for the kids since the town is a small town where "there's nothing to do". (at least that's the kid's opinion.)


    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Yes yes, get the teacher fired for daring to partake in something that might get them mildly intoxicated on their own time. Oooo.... really saving the children there, aren't ya?
    It's illegal so yes. As for saving the children? Yep. They no longer have a stupid teacher teaching them.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    And yeah, sure, you have every "right" to send your kids to public school. I'm just saying that a great many teachers smoke, or have smoked pot. At least most of the ones I've known. Ditto for college professors. But hey, you keep 'fighting the good fight' to put those evil people in jail where they belong.
    They're not evil. Just stupid. There's a difference. Muslim terrorists are evil. Not idiots smoking pot.
    I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

    My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang

  3. #113
    Goddess of Bacon

    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    Charlottesville, VA
    Last Seen
    05-28-12 @ 09:35 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    13,988

    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yeah so? And there are still people that drive while under the influence right? And what happens when they are caught? That's right, they go to jail. Why do they go to jail? Two reasons. 1: They broke the law. 2: By putting them in jail they are no longer a risk to society. So nope, no need to try again. You just need to think things through to their logical conclusion.
    The risk isn't drinking or smoking pot. It's driving while under the influence of ANYTHING - even painkillers. Doesn't have to be an illegal substance. Hence my "try again".

    I've met lots. Hell it's a national past time in the town I live in, especially for the kids since the town is a small town where "there's nothing to do". (at least that's the kid's opinion.)
    Sounds like you're just pretty biased then.

    It's illegal so yes. As for saving the children? Yep. They no longer have a stupid teacher teaching them.
    So just because it's illegal it's "wrong" and "stupid"? That's your litmus test? Legality? Lordy I hope no teachers in VA are having sex out of wedlock. Or with the lights on. It's illegal after all.

    They're not evil. Just stupid. There's a difference. Muslim terrorists are evil. Not idiots smoking pot.
    Again, what makes them stupid?

  4. #114
    Educator
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Minnesota
    Last Seen
    10-15-10 @ 08:55 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    718

    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yeah so? And there are still people that drive while under the influence right? And what happens when they are caught? That's right, they go to jail. Why do they go to jail? Two reasons. 1: They broke the law. 2: By putting them in jail they are no longer a risk to society. So nope, no need to try again. You just need to think things through to their logical conclusion.



    I've met lots. Hell it's a national past time in the town I live in, especially for the kids since the town is a small town where "there's nothing to do". (at least that's the kid's opinion.)




    It's illegal so yes. As for saving the children? Yep. They no longer have a stupid teacher teaching them.



    They're not evil. Just stupid. There's a difference. Muslim terrorists are evil. Not idiots smoking pot.
    Cripes. Are you for real? Might I ask you this question:

    Do you stand on your front porch to make sure "those damn kids keep off my (your) lawn!"

  5. #115
    Global Moderator
    The Truth is out there.
    Kal'Stang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bonners Ferry ID USA
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,886
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    I think that there are some people in this thread thinking that people go out of their way and "peek in their bedrooms at night". What you all seem to be forgetting is that if something like smoking pot becomes public knowledge then they obviously did something where they were caught. If however they keep it within their home then no one will find out unless they have a blabber mouth of a "friend". In which case it just became public. In which case, more than likely, their students are going to hear about it. And since a teach is suppose to be a role model for their students and have a significant impact on their students they should be held to a higher standard.

    Is it fair? Probably not. But that is the way it is. Get over it. Whoever said life was fair? If you want fair then go dream. Cause that is the only place where it will be.

    Edit note: FYI, I have nothing but respect for good teachers and have no problem with them getting payed even $200,000 a year.
    Last edited by Kal'Stang; 09-08-10 at 03:10 PM.
    I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

    My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang

  6. #116
    Angry Former GOP Voter
    Fiddytree's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:20 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    25,705

    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    So the only people who are right for the job are those who love their job enough to make a small salary for one of the most vital jobs in our country and not make noise about it?
    In a word: yes. In three words, yes and no.
    Government workers are more imbued in a sense of importance of their job than the private sector counterparts. A legendary fable involves a janitor working at NASA believing his job aided getting a man on the moon. Public school educators are even more legendary for their sense of duty and virtuous lifestyle.

    It has become cliche for teachers to tell each other and their students "you don't do this for the money" for a reason. Could salaries be better? Sure. Do I think that teachers are really poor? No. It is also well-known that teachers are hardly quiet dissenters. However, at some point, my sympathies no longer travel in the direction of "oh you poor dears".
    Last edited by Fiddytree; 09-08-10 at 03:18 PM.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

  7. #117
    Global Moderator
    The Truth is out there.
    Kal'Stang's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Bonners Ferry ID USA
    Last Seen
    @
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    32,886
    Blog Entries
    1

    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    Cripes. Are you for real? Might I ask you this question:

    Do you stand on your front porch to make sure "those damn kids keep off my (your) lawn!"
    Yes I am for real. No I don't stand on my front porch yelling at kids.
    I have an answer for everything...you may not like the answer or it may not satisfy your curiosity..but it will still be an answer. ~ Kal'Stang

    My mind and my heart are saying I'm in my twenties. My body is pointing at my mind and heart and laughing its ass off. ~ Kal'Stang

  8. #118
    Angry Former GOP Voter
    Fiddytree's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:20 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    25,705

    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    So, the fact that someone is employed as a teacher gives Maggie the right to peer through their bedroom windows at night?

    It's a good thing you don't live in my neighborhood, Maggie. I'd set the dog on you.
    No. American teachers are not living the lives of those on Big Brother or Survivor.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

  9. #119
    Educator
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Minnesota
    Last Seen
    10-15-10 @ 08:55 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    718

    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Yes I am for real. No I don't stand on my front porch yelling at kids.
    But you obviously think that it's your place to play "private life cop." I'll refrain from saying anything more.

  10. #120
    Sage
    Infinite Chaos's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2007
    Last Seen
    11-19-17 @ 06:45 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    14,858

    Re: A Teacher's Private Life

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I didn't. I copied it verbatim --
    No, I asked because I looked at your link and saw that it said "incompetence" - your post has it changed that to "INCOMPETENCY". I was just curious.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    -- Part of the ethos of the profession is self-worship of the job, which can help teachers as a whole appreciate their own choice.
    And there was me thinking most went into it for what the profession could do for those in their charge. Self worship? No, that kind of person would be putting on a perormance for their own benefit and not for the children / students.

    But back to the topic - maybe if there is a mythical "higher standard" which involves people's private lives then that should be more widely known or discussed with potential teachers so that they would know being a teacher was more than just helping people to achieve and to fulfil their potential but also that their private lives would no longer be private?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    -- What you all seem to be forgetting is that if something like smoking pot becomes public knowledge then they obviously did something where they were caught. If however they keep it within their home then no one will find out unless they have a blabber mouth of a "friend". In which case it just became public. In which case, more than likely, their students are going to hear about it. And since a teach is suppose to be a role model for their students and have a significant impact on their students they should be held to a higher standard --
    That's just terrible.

    So not only is your private life not your own "private life" anymore but you also have to worry if an ex friend or ex wife / husband decides for whatever reason to release any previously private intimate details that might constitute illicit behaviour in the eyes of the seraphs among us!

Page 12 of 15 FirstFirst ... 21011121314 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •