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    Re: Ban on furs

    Here's what you do if you're all upset and bothered by the ugly conditions on a mink farm.

    Buy your own mink farm, hire your own furriers or learn the trade yourselves, and sell minks for less than the evil cruel mink dudes.

    You can market it as Pre-Petted Mink. It'll cost you some fingers, but what the heck, no price is too big to save the earth, right?

    They go out of business and you're in.

    Otherwise, since you don't seem to own an interest in the business, you don't seem to have any reason to be bothered.

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    Re: Ban on furs

    I am sure the federal/national government (America) would love to add more bloated legislation to the books to take more of our money and grant them more powers. In a free society, we should allow the people to choose to either buy or not buy furs (this includes choosing in light of how the company obtains their furs, etc).
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Shayah View Post
    This is how I see it also. Modern textile science has the ability to artificially replicate animal fur. Many modern fabrics are also excellent insulators and retain heat much better than animal fur. They are also waterproof.

    Considering the technical advances that have been made, I just no longer see a viable reason to cultivate and slaughter certain animals exclusively for their fur.
    You might want to rethink buying faux fur. Not that I agree with them about running out of oil. LOL, and I just noticed this is from the fur commision. Oh well, maybe there is some truth to it anyway. Sorry for such a biased link.

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    All fake fur is manmade, from textiles such as polyester and nylon. But according to the UK magazine Ethical Consumer, these are manufactured at a huge cost to human health.
    Ruth Rosselson, spokeswoman for the consumer magazine In Touch, says: 'Both these synthetic materials are responsible for large-scale factory pollution of our waterways, rivers, canals and even the sea. More than 50 per cent of this country's emissions into our air of the poisonous "greenhouse" gas nitrous oxide comes from nylon production.
    'As for polyester, it's made using petrochemicals which are oil-based products.
    Oil is a natural resource that will one day run out and its use should be controlled today for the sake of tomorrow.
    'Some chemicals used in the dyeing of polyester for our fashion market are also known to be highly poisonous carcinogens in their own right. So they, too, are polluting the air and waterways.' Other environmentalists go further, insisting that to waste our precious oil reserves on making something as flippant as a fake fur jacket, when nature provides wool, fur and leather as renewable resources, is a dangerous mistake. Our precious oil will run out faster and cost future generations dearly.
    'Real fur garments are much less polluting to manufacture than synthetic faux furs which are made with some of the most toxic chemicals known to man,' says Eugene Lapointe, one of the world's leading experts on the Earth's wild resources, in a damning report he released recently.

    Should you be faking it? - Fur Commission USA [New Window]
    But is it really any better for the environment than the one made from the skin of an animal? The truth will amaze you. All fake fur is manmade, ...
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by peepnklown View Post
    I am sure the federal/national government (America) would love to add more bloated legislation to the books to take more of our money and grant them more powers. In a free society, we should allow the people to choose to either buy or not buy furs (this includes choosing in light of how the company obtains their furs, etc).
    In a free society, who'll make the companies tell people how they get the fur?
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Hunters as fishermen are almost always truer conservationists than animal rights extremists if for no other reason than self interest. The vast majority of animal rights whackos I have met (and I have debated Ingrid NewKook, Wayne Pacells and others on live talk shows) don't know the difference between a great horned owl and a wombat and their "education" as to wild animals seems to have come from watching Bambi a dozen times while tripping on acid
    Oh you lucky dog! I'd love to meet Inbred Newkirk.
    I'd bring with me a big juicy hamburger and eat it in front of the media whore.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    @ spud
    I suppose only government can help, eh?
    The customer has plenty of resources from the private sector, for example; information from other customers, customer demand, independent organizations, and now the internet.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Oh you lucky dog! I'd love to meet Inbred Newkirk.
    I'd bring with me a big juicy hamburger and eat it in front of the media whore.
    I pretty much had everyone in the studio laughing at her

    the host-asked her how to describe her philosophy. She said if you were driving down a road and hit an icy patch and on one side of the road there is a baby in a carriage and on the other side of the road a chimpanzee it should be a moral dilemna as to what living being you hit when your car went into a skid. so he asked me-I said if the chimp was mine I'd merely ask her to buy me a new one but if it was my kid I'd track her down and skin her.

    she also was whining about schools teaching kids about the holocaust while not teaching them about the billions of chickens murdered by Kentucky Fried Chicken. The host-(now deceased) was the brother of a Jesuit who once ran Georgetown U-noted that if she couldn't tell the difference between a Jewish ghetto victim and a chicken someone ought to stick her in an oven. she's totally nutty



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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Sorry for such a biased link.
    Lol. Biased doesn't even do it justice. More like life-preserver.

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Seriously, what's the difference between killing an animal for it's fur and killing it for it's skin?
    It's wasteful. I would have no problem killing an animal for it's fur and meat, but I draw the line at skinning and leaving the meat to rot. Like I said, it's wasteful.

    Are we proposing to ban all forms of leather as well?
    I'm all for leather as it's mostly a by-product of cows, an animal we use for meat. So less waste but using the skin... I'm all for that.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Shayah View Post
    Israel Fur Trade Ban Wins Support : Humane Society International



    Would you support anti-fur legislation in your own country?
    All I can say is I applaud Israel for passing this great piece of legislation.

    Makes me think of this quote:

    “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.”

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    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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