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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    not at all--the people who push this nonsense also want to ban hunting and fishing and ultimately meat eating. The HSI is a far left group that supports all such bans I mentioned above
    I was with you until you did that 'it's the left's fault again.

    I'm lean left a little and agree with you, but you blew it.

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why do libs spend so much time supporting the government taking away private wealth?
    Oh for cripes sake!

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    I was with you until you did that 'it's the left's fault again.

    I'm lean left a little and agree with you, but you blew it.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    Oh for cripes sake!
    Deny this you do?



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    Re: Ban on furs

    What a way to kill jobs. A mink ain't worth nothing if it can't be skinned. Kill the mink industry, put thousands out of work.

    It's one thing to regulate the sale of product from endangered species, quite another to arbitrarily target an industry just because some people have their heads up their asses and want to control the lives of others. Those people should be told, in no uncertain terms, that if they want to end the fur trade all they have to do is buy the farms raising the fur animals, the companies treating the furs, and the companies sewing the furs into clothing. That's all they have to do.

    What? You mean if they did that all that woudl happed is that someone else would start up a new fur company?

    What a shame.

    I guess the busy-body do gooders should just learn to Mind Their Own Business.

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Deny this you do?
    That's pretty funny when you say that to a guy that put food on table and paid his bills via a business that relied on furs.

    Hey dude I've been a taxidermist for 25 years now!

    As usual you don't have a clue to what you're talking about blaming everything on the left. You'd be surprised how many democrats trap and hunt and are taxidermists like myself!

    BTW folks those cute little mink are the closest thing there is to a vampire. They suck the fluids right out of their prey. And furthermore the farms are much crueler than trapping a wild animal and quickly dispatching it. At least the wild animal has some dignity before it's killed.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    horse hide?

    what is the difference between raising minks for fur vs pigs for bacon? the animal rights whackos as well as some of the less extreme vegetarians say there is no NEED to eat Bacon or meat at all

    I tire of people wanting to restrict others rights based on the restrictors' concept of what others need.
    I'm not for banning mink or mink farms. A man has a right to make a living and people have a right to purchase a fur coat. As long as there is a market for it, it should continue. I just find it distateful.
    I thought most leather came from cattle. I also don't think horses are raised for their hide, are they? I believe in making use of all parts of animals that are killed for whatever reason. The horses go for dogfood or human consumption,and glue don't they? So of course, by all means use the hide.
    I was a vegetarian for a while when I was young. I found I didn't like vegetarians/vegans much. Most in my opinion are mentally unstable. It's almost like a cult and I think they'd be much happier and healthier if they'd eat a steak once in a while. I eat tons of meat now. I refuse to eat veal because of how it is raised, however i wouldn't want it banned. Let the free market work.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I say people can wear what they want but we should tax the hell out of luxury items.
    The following items are luxury items:

    Meat.
    Spices.
    Fresh green vegetables outside of the local growing season.
    Indoor plumbing.
    Private bathrooms.
    Motorized transport of any form.
    More than one shirt, pair of pants, overcoat.
    Shoes are luxurious.
    So is underwear.
    Furniture.
    Forks.
    Sporting events.
    Televisions are, telescreens are not.
    Newspapers.
    Internet.
    Radio.
    Medical supplies, medical care.


    What do you want taxed again?

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I don't know enough about which 'furs' would be banned. . . I have to learn more in that area.

    But in general I'm like this:

    I'm against Killing an animal *just* for it's fur or skin.
    If any animal is to be killed it should be primarily for food / safety - and then selling of that fur/skin so that no part of the animal goes to waste.
    Fur shouldn't really be glamorized - it actually serves a very practical function. I don't get the 'fashion' behind it.
    There's not enough minks to go around. Which means, by simple market economics, minks cost more. Some people can't afford it, and that's too bad for them, but it does mean the rich and snooty get to glam around in dead animals. Poor people wear sheep hair.

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    That's pretty funny when you say that to a guy that put food on table and paid his bills via a business that relied on furs.

    Hey dude I've been a taxidermist for 25 years now!

    As usual you don't have a clue to what you're talking about blaming everything on the left. You'd be surprised how many democrats trap and hunt and are taxidermists like myself!

    BTW folks those cute little mink are the closest thing there is to a vampire. They suck the fluids right out of their prey. And furthermore the farms are much crueler than trapping a wild animal and quickly dispatching it. At least the wild animal has some dignity before it's killed.
    and you have no clue what I know or that I may have worked in a hunting and fishing store for years and that a member of my family ran an archery shop etc. Dignity is a term that doesn't apply to animals. I know trappers, I have trappers as friends and I have hunted all my life. Human concepts of dignity would note that catching someone by the leg and then clubbing him over the head after he was free for years is more dignified than raising someone in a pen and then electrocuting him with a probe inserted in his rectum and that would be true. But electrocuting mink is more humane than an animal sitting in a #2 jump spring trap for 8 hours even if less "dignified"

    and sure lots of hunters vote dem-often union types who think that getting more money from dem policies is worth the price of voting for the party that is home to almost all the anti hunting and anti gun types.

    But the fact remains, if somone wants to raise mink for fur and others want to buy it, I value the freedom of those HUMANS above the emotobabble of the animal rights whackos



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