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    Re: Ban on furs

    I see no real need anymore for animal fur. 200 years ago when it was used to keep us warm, then of course. Now a days though we have fabrics and such to keep us warm, it is only used to make a fashion statement. I would support a ban on the fur trade, I just don't think we can justify slaughtering animals for their fur.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    I don't know enough about which 'furs' would be banned. . . I have to learn more in that area.

    But in general I'm like this:

    I'm against Killing an animal *just* for it's fur or skin.
    If any animal is to be killed it should be primarily for food / safety - and then selling of that fur/skin so that no part of the animal goes to waste.
    Fur shouldn't really be glamorized - it actually serves a very practical function. I don't get the 'fashion' behind it.
    Thanks, you said a lot that I was going to.
    I hate seeing things like mink raised solely for fur.
    I also think we should use everything possible from an animal once we kill it.
    Many people depend on fur for warmth, not glamour.
    I think the stigma these days of wearing fur for fashion is enough to make most people stop it.
    I wouldn't be caught dead in fur for glamour.
    However I wouldn't want to take that right away with a law, just because I find it distasteful.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Seriously, what's the difference between killing an animal for it's fur and killing it for it's skin? Are we proposing to ban all forms of leather as well? If someone wants to farm a particular species of animal humanely, go for it. I don't even care if it's endangered, so long as it's all farmed and never taken out of the wild. If you can figure out how to breed millions of whatever animal you want, more power to you. Heck, breed some extras for release back into the wild while you're at it.
    Leather comes from food animals. They are not killed for there skin. If they were I wouldn't buy leather.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Since when do animal rights groups advocate communism and are you just lumping them together ideologically to make the other side easier to hate?
    Real animal rights people like PETA ( not to be confused with animal welfare advocates) would like to ban all fur, leather, meat,hunting, fishing, animals in entertainment, medical research, working animals, guide and rescue dogs, show dogs, zoos and believe it or not, they would like to ban pets some day. Nuts like Ingrid Newkirk (PETA founder) would just love to see fur banned. It would be one step closer to their true goals of only viewing animals from a distance and in their natural environment.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I see no real need anymore for animal fur. 200 years ago when it was used to keep us warm, then of course. Now a days though we have fabrics and such to keep us warm, it is only used to make a fashion statement. I would support a ban on the fur trade, I just don't think we can justify slaughtering animals for their fur.
    This is how I see it also. Modern textile science has the ability to artificially replicate animal fur. Many modern fabrics are also excellent insulators and retain heat much better than animal fur. They are also waterproof.

    Considering the technical advances that have been made, I just no longer see a viable reason to cultivate and slaughter certain animals exclusively for their fur.

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Real animal rights people like PETA ( not to be confused with animal welfare advocates) would like to ban all fur, leather, meat,hunting, fishing, animals in entertainment, medical research, working animals, guide and rescue dogs, show dogs, zoos and believe it or not, they would like to ban pets some day. Nuts like Ingrid Newkirk (PETA founder) would just love to see fur banned. It would be one step closer to their true goals of only viewing animals from a distance and in their natural environment.
    Yes I do believe much of what you said.

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you obviously are ignorant of the politics of the animal rights movement in europe. and I never mentioned communist

    I was an olympic class shooter at one time. One of the events in the olympics involved the use of a small bore rifle (22) shooting at a running boar target. While my discipline was in another event, I was approached by the NRA (which was the NGB then) to shoot this event due to certain talents I had. Fortunately I did not because the event was dropped from the games--in europe, venues for that event were vandalized by animal rights whackos who were mad about a sport where athletes shot at PICTURES of a boar.

    My father used to travel to England for "shooting" partridge. He was on one estate which was owned by a Lord who happened to be a high ranking officer of the SAS. During one of the shoots, the "antis" as they are called trespassed and attempted to attack the shooters (a smart move to attack people who are packing shotguns) and the game keeper etc. Sadly for them, a regiment of the SAS were on the grounds training as well. My late father said it was amusing to watch these special forces soldiers practice hand to hand techniques on the radical antis.

    When the wall came down, lots of information about the KGB was obtained. Guess what movement was being funded by the KGB?
    What does this have to do with government acquisition of the means of production under the guise on environmentalism?

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Real animal rights people like PETA ( not to be confused with animal welfare advocates) would like to ban all fur, leather, meat,hunting, fishing, animals in entertainment, medical research, working animals, guide and rescue dogs, show dogs, zoos and believe it or not, they would like to ban pets some day. Nuts like Ingrid Newkirk (PETA founder) would just love to see fur banned. It would be one step closer to their true goals of only viewing animals from a distance and in their natural environment.
    since I oppose their end goals I will not support their intermediate steps. Its akin to people asking me why I won't support gun registration or waiting periods: those who want bans push for those intermediate steps.



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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    What does this have to do with government acquisition of the means of production under the guise on environmentalism?
    I guess you are taking a narrow view to avoid my point. Government control over private property is a unifying theme of leftwing diseases



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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Leather comes from food animals. They are not killed for there skin. If they were I wouldn't buy leather.
    horse hide?

    what is the difference between raising minks for fur vs pigs for bacon? the animal rights whackos as well as some of the less extreme vegetarians say there is no NEED to eat Bacon or meat at all

    I tire of people wanting to restrict others rights based on the restrictors' concept of what others need.



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