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Thread: Ban on furs

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    Re: Ban on furs

    I don't know enough about which 'furs' would be banned. . . I have to learn more in that area.

    But in general I'm like this:

    I'm against Killing an animal *just* for it's fur or skin.
    If any animal is to be killed it should be primarily for food / safety - and then selling of that fur/skin so that no part of the animal goes to waste.
    Fur shouldn't really be glamorized - it actually serves a very practical function. I don't get the 'fashion' behind it.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Seriously, what's the difference between killing an animal for it's fur and killing it for it's skin? Are we proposing to ban all forms of leather as well? If someone wants to farm a particular species of animal humanely, go for it. I don't even care if it's endangered, so long as it's all farmed and never taken out of the wild. If you can figure out how to breed millions of whatever animal you want, more power to you. Heck, breed some extras for release back into the wild while you're at it.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Shayah View Post
    Israel Fur Trade Ban Wins Support : Humane Society International



    Would you support anti-fur legislation in your own country?
    not at all--the people who push this nonsense also want to ban hunting and fishing and ultimately meat eating. The HSI is a far left group that supports all such bans I mentioned above



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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    I say people can wear what they want but we should tax the hell out of luxury items.
    why do libs spend so much time supporting the government taking away private wealth?



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    Re: Ban on furs

    I would be concerned about animal suffering etc. If it was done properly and humanely I wouldn't be against raising animals for fur. I hear its the case that it is not so on alot of occasions and I would support such a ban in that case.

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I would be concerned about animal suffering etc. If it was done properly and humanely I wouldn't be against raising animals for fur. I hear its the case that it is not so on alot of occasions and I would support such a ban in that case.
    do you support a ban on meat if the conditions under which meat livestock is raised is not pristine?

    the problem with "animal rights" is that groups that want government control over private property as a means to an end almost always are taken over by those who see government control of private property as their ultimate goal



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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A ban on the fur trade should only apply to endangered animals,so I would not support an outright ban on the fur trade.
    What he said. I'd support a ban for endangered species only.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    do you support a ban on meat if the conditions under which meat livestock is raised is not pristine?

    the problem with "animal rights" is that groups that want government control over private property as a means to an end almost always are taken over by those who see government control of private property as their ultimate goal
    Since when do animal rights groups advocate communism and are you just lumping them together ideologically to make the other side easier to hate?

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Since when do animal rights groups advocate communism and are you just lumping them together ideologically to make the other side easier to hate?
    I've been studying these movements for over 10 years now. Unlike the animal welfare movement, the animal rights movement is as a whole much more radicalized.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    Since when do animal rights groups advocate communism and are you just lumping them together ideologically to make the other side easier to hate?
    you obviously are ignorant of the politics of the animal rights movement in europe. and I never mentioned communist

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