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    Re: Ban on furs

    I would oppose a fur trade in endangered animals, but not oppose a general fur trade and definately not oppose the traditional fur hunting of the Inuit peoples in northern Canada, Greenland, and Alaska -- though the EU has laws against their import...
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I would oppose a fur trade in endangered animals, but not oppose a general fur trade and definately not oppose the traditional fur hunting of the Inuit peoples in northern Canada, Greenland, and Alaska -- though the EU has laws against their import...

    The beauty of the Inuit people is that nothing--I men nothing--is wasted. Fur, meat, and organs are all consumed or used for something else. They seem to have a balanced appreciation for mother nature and take good care of her. There so much we can learn from them.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I would oppose a fur trade in endangered animals, but not oppose a general fur trade and definately not oppose the traditional fur hunting of the Inuit peoples in northern Canada, Greenland, and Alaska -- though the EU has laws against their import...
    What about the traditional hunting practices of the American people in the United States? Something wrong with those people, they can't be shown the same special considerations as others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    The beauty of the Inuit people is that nothing--I men nothing--is wasted. Fur, meat, and organs are all consumed or used for something else. They seem to have a balanced appreciation for mother nature and take good care of her. There so much we can learn from them.
    No, they don't.

    They live in one of the harshest environments on the planet and they are forced to be efficient with the limited resources at their disposal.

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Anyone ever wonde why people who aren't living in barren environments abandoned fur as an essential article of clothing some time ago?

    Yes, that's right. People more resources to draw from figured out that sheep wool can be spun into yarns and threads and that in turn can be woven into cloth that can be sewn into clothing using the same eyed needles originally invented to sew furs together. They also discovered vegetable fibers, such as flax and cotton.

    So, suddenly, when they killed an animal, it's skin could be used for leather, but it's hair wasn't valuable any more, especially from animals with short coarse hair like cattle.

    It, as always, is a matter of economics.

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Can anyone explain why the environmentally sensitive westerners, with their drive to use as much of the whale as they possibly could, turned away from whales as a resource and started making pets out of them?

    There's two reasons.

    1) Petroleum was a better resource for energy needs, which dropped the bottom out of the whaling industry, and,

    2) Whales were getting hard to find.

    Once again, economics came into play. There's absolutely no reason to believe that Eskimos are any different from the rest of us.

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    One doesn't have to be an animal rights advocate to believe that the fur industry is an abomination. I'm no Ingrid Newkirk (my cats work for me, dammit), but the fur industry at this point in time serves no worthwhile purpose. I hope we will someday develop a conscience about animals in the U.S.

    I grew up on a cattle farm. The thing about cattle is that EVERY SINGLE PART of that animal is used for something....food, dogfood, leather, other products. But fur animals are killed, skinned, and left to rot, not to mention confined in stinking tiny cages their entire lives. It's a sickening industry.
    Many people confuse animal rights, with animal welfare. You apparantly are more of an animal welfare advocate.
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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Many people confuse animal rights, with animal welfare. You apparantly are more of an animal welfare advocate.
    Absolutely. Animals are not our equals, which is why we have a responsibility to care for them in humane ways, even if we plan to eat them at some point.

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    Boys, Skin em if ya Got em! Go on lets git er dun now!

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    Re: Ban on furs

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    What about the traditional hunting practices of the American people in the United States? Something wrong with those people, they can't be shown the same special considerations as others?
    I was just citing the Inuit as an example... and there ARE Inuit in the United States...
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