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Thread: Should Israel continue it's freeze on settlement expansion in the West Bank?

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    Re: Should Israel continue it's freeze on settlement expansion in the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    The settlements that Israel will annex as part of such land swap are the big settlements, and those reside next to the 1967 border, meaning that Palestinian land will not be disfigured.
    I hope so. The aim is not to deport Israeli people, it is to make a future Palestinian state viable.

    What about East Jerusalem? Do you also agree that it should be placed under Palestinian rule?

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    Re: Should Israel continue it's freeze on settlement expansion in the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    I hope so. The aim is not to deport Israeli people, it is to make a future Palestinian state viable.

    What about East Jerusalem? Do you also agree that it should be placed under Palestinian rule?
    I think that the Palestinians should be given the Arab quarters of East Jerusalem.
    Besides that, I can also agree with the international management of the sacred places.
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    Re: Should Israel continue it's freeze on settlement expansion in the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I think that the Palestinians should be given the Arab quarters of East Jerusalem.
    Besides that, I can also agree with the international management of the sacred places.
    OK, pre settlement "Arab Quarters" or what is left now?

    If all of the so called Holy places cannot be flattened to the ground (which I would wholeheartedly support) so that no one can argue about them then I agree with you about giving them special international management status.

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    Re: Should Israel continue it's freeze on settlement expansion in the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Rea View Post
    OK, pre settlement "Arab Quarters" or what is left now?
    First of all let me correct myself, I've meant to the Muslim quarters not Arab quarters.

    Secondly, you don't seem to hold any knowledge over the architecture of the old city of Jerusalem.
    It is divided into quarters; Muslim, Armenian, Christian, Jewish quarters.
    The Palestinians can get the Muslim quarters.

    The settlements built at that place do not change the fact that it's called the Muslim quarters, so when I'm saying the Muslim quarters I mean the Muslim quarters, all of them.
    Last edited by Apocalypse; 08-30-10 at 05:00 PM.
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    Re: Should Israel continue it's freeze on settlement expansion in the West Bank?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I don't understand your question.
    What I'm saying is that the existing settlements do not expand over their defined land. (except of those outposts that settlers build that are illegal according to Israeli law as well)
    Basically what I'm saying is that many new cities expand out from a semi-central point... people normally don't build an outside edge of houses and then start building in toward a central point. People could also build buildings far apart from each other and fill in the gaps later on. But filling in those gaps can also lead to claiming land.

    If Israel is expanding OUT, that in my mind is claiming more land. When they build on land, the residents will be less willing to give up that land in future negotiations with the Palestinian government if negotiations demand it.

    It wouldn't make sense to me for Israel to give up land that they've spent resources on and moved people to. But hey, if they're willing to do that, no sweat off my back.

    I am curious what you meant by "defined land" though.

    I'm also curious, seeing you're from Israel, if you know how willing Israeli citizens would be in moving out of those settlements near the border?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Rea View Post
    If all of the so called Holy places cannot be flattened to the ground (which I would wholeheartedly support) so that no one can argue about them then I agree with you about giving them special international management status.
    The land is what's sacred. There are important buildings, but the land would still be there for people to claim.

    I have my doubts that international control would work, but I wouldn't be against the idea if people can live with it.
    Last edited by Jucon; 08-30-10 at 08:24 PM.
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