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    Re: Which party best supports civil rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    You look at it for civil rights for unborn children. We see it as civil rights for women.
    Yes, I know. Just as the Democrats saw slavery as civil rights for the slave owner. And, yes, Northern Democrats voted against early civil rights bills too.


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    Re: Which party best supports civil rights?

    They BOTH suck at it equally.
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    Re: Which party best supports civil rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    You look at it for civil rights for unborn children. We see it as civil rights for women.
    that is one of the rare areas where two sides that oppose one another both can be completely right



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    Re: Which party best supports civil rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Yes, I know. Just as the Democrats saw slavery as civil rights for the slave owner. And, yes, Northern Democrats voted against early civil rights bills too.
    Really? Before you misuse history again, take a look at this Thread
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    Re: Which party best supports civil rights?

    That's like asking which party best supports the Rocky Mountains. Civil rights are an irreducible part of our system of government and have to be addressed, not supported.
    Last edited by Morality Games; 08-29-10 at 09:11 PM.
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    Re: Which party best supports civil rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Really? Before you misuse history again, take a look at this Thread
    Misusing history?

    Northern Democrats voted against the early civil rights laws as well as Southern Democrats. Take for instance the 14th Amendment which guarantees the due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens. 100% of Democrats voted against it.

    Andrew Johnson (Democratic President) famously vetoed every single Republican-controlled Congress civil rights legislation including granting blacks the right to vote.

    Democrats unanimously voted no to the Confiscation Act which stated that slaves of the Confederacy "shall forever be free".

    Stephen Douglass of Illinois (who was the chosen Democrat nominee who ran against Lincoln in 1858) said, "I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”

    October 10, 1871
    Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands.

    March 1, 1875
    Civil Rights Act of 1875, guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, signed by Republican President U.S. Grant; passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition

    February 8, 1894
    Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote

    Not to mention the Grand Wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic Convention.


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    Re: Which party best supports civil rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Misusing history?

    Northern Democrats voted against the early civil rights laws as well as Southern Democrats. Take for instance the 14th Amendment which guarantees the due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens. 100% of Democrats voted against it.

    Andrew Johnson (Democratic President) famously vetoed every single Republican-controlled Congress civil rights legislation including granting blacks the right to vote.

    Democrats unanimously voted no to the Confiscation Act which stated that slaves of the Confederacy "shall forever be free".

    Stephen Douglass of Illinois (who was the chosen Democrat nominee who ran against Lincoln in 1858) said, "I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”

    October 10, 1871
    Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands.

    March 1, 1875
    Civil Rights Act of 1875, guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, signed by Republican President U.S. Grant; passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition

    February 8, 1894
    Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote

    Not to mention the Grand Wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic Convention.
    Those examples are tangential, because they refer to epochs in American history when both the Democratic and Republican Parties possessed different ideological constitutions. They aren't good contemporary representations.
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    Re: Which party best supports civil rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Misusing history?

    Northern Democrats voted against the early civil rights laws as well as Southern Democrats. Take for instance the 14th Amendment which guarantees the due process and equal protection of the law to all citizens. 100% of Democrats voted against it.

    Andrew Johnson (Democratic President) famously vetoed every single Republican-controlled Congress civil rights legislation including granting blacks the right to vote.

    Democrats unanimously voted no to the Confiscation Act which stated that slaves of the Confederacy "shall forever be free".

    Stephen Douglass of Illinois (who was the chosen Democrat nominee who ran against Lincoln in 1858) said, "I do not regard the Negro as my equal, and positively deny that he is my brother, or any kin to me whatever”

    October 10, 1871
    Following warnings by Philadelphia Democrats against black voting, African-American Republican civil rights activist Octavius Catto murdered by Democratic Party operative; his military funeral was attended by thousands.

    March 1, 1875
    Civil Rights Act of 1875, guaranteeing access to public accommodations without regard to race, signed by Republican President U.S. Grant; passed with 92% Republican support over 100% Democrat opposition

    February 8, 1894
    Democrat Congress and Democrat President Grover Cleveland join to repeal Republicans’ Enforcement Act, which had enabled African-Americans to vote

    Not to mention the Grand Wizard of the KKK was honored at the 1868 Democratic Convention.
    Yep, your misusing history. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Your trying to use these facts as evidence that the republicans are the party that best supports civil rights today. But trying to use the Democratic party of back then to describe the Democratic party of today is misusing history. Same goes for the Republican party.
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    Re: Which party best supports civil rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    There has been some talk of this on the forum so I decided to make a poll/thread about it.

    Do you think the Democrat party properly supports civil rights?
    Do you think the Republican party properly supports civil rights?
    Neither?
    Both?

    Please explain your reasons.
    Everyone equally supports rights - civil and otherwise.

    It's other things, benefits, extras, programs and so forth that are geared toward different race, gender and financial class that differ party to party.
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    Re: Which party best supports civil rights?

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Yep, your misusing history. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Your trying to use these facts as evidence that the republicans are the party that best supports civil rights today. But trying to use the Democratic party of back then to describe the Democratic party of today is misusing history. Same goes for the Republican party.
    Huh? I'm doing nothing of the kind. You said I was misusing history by stating that Southern AND Northern Dems were against early civil rights for blacks. Now you're suddenly clairvoyant and know that I was trying to twist it to say Republicans are the best party for civil rights? Huh? They were back THEN. Republicans and Democrats have been supportive of civil rights (for most) for decades now. I say they're both the same.

    I hate it when people try to put words in my mouth.


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