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If MLK were alive today, would he be on Glenn Beck's 'chalkboard?'

If MLK were alive today, would he be on Glenn Beck's 'chalkboard?'

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FilmFestGuy said:
Seriously, is that the real cover?

If so, you've got to be kidding.
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Play on Kruschevs definition of American liberals as 'useful idiots'...
 
VanceMack said:
Come now...you are FINE with the liberal pundits...the counterpart to Limbaugh and Beck...but then...they speak your language. Their 'heart' is in the right place.
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What liberal counterparts am I fine with? I don't listen to or watch any of the liberal counterparts...I don't even know who they would be.
 
Mellie said:
Gosh, I sure hope all the African Americans involved in the 8.28 rally this past weekend knew they were promoting white racism.

:shock:

:roll:
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All 3 of them?:doh

Tell me it ain't so!

:boohoo:
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: according to MLK's speechwriter (and personal attorney) Clarence Jones, MLK would have been 'pleased and honored' with Becks' rally on the anniversary of his speach. certainly he would have been right there with using Christian principles to understand and shape how we are supposed to view each other and our nation as citizens.
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I find this very hard to believe.
 
earthworm said:
I find this very hard to believe.
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maybe you should email his neice. Apparently she and his attorney were there...

Seriously...dont you think it is possible that it is your own personal bias and that in fact you MAY really have NO IDEA what happened there or who might have approved of what other than from the very biased positions you have read or heard from others?
 
Redress said:
That's a pretty meaningless statement all things considered. My sister, who is a lot closer relative than a niece, agrees with me on a total of 1 political issue, SSM.
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So your sister got all the brains?

Sorry, could let that one go by.
 
EnigmaO01 said:
The Beck and Palin adorers sends shivers down my spine. It reminds me of the naive Germans that ate up everything the Fuhrer said which eventually led them to slaughter and the ruin of their country. No Beck and Palin are no Hitlers but these money grubbing opportunists have a lot of potential to cause a lot of harm while they laugh all the way to the bank.
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I feel the same way about Barry, Reid, and Pelosi. :shrug:
 
VanceMack said:
maybe you should email his neice. Apparently she and his attorney were there...

Seriously...dont you think it is possible that it is your own personal bias and that in fact you MAY really have NO IDEA what happened there or who might have approved of what other than from the very biased positions you have read or heard from others?
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I think people are going to ignore the obvious in order to either support Beck or not. No one really knows how Dr. King would have felt about the speech. His niece and attorney maybe right and he may have loved it, or he may not have. Point is I wish people wouldn't try and use what other think about how Dr. King would have felt. And unfortunately he is not around for us to ask.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
Given that MLK was considered a socialist a communist and anti american by the American government of his time, I expect Glen Beck would consider him to be a socialist, communist and anti american as well
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That was a Democratic govt that thought he was a socialist. My how times have changed. :lol: Now we have a Democratic black socialist as president. :lamo
 
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American said:
That was a Democratic govt that thought he was a socialist. My how times have changed. :lol: Now we have a Democratic black socialist as president. :lamo
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Except for the fact that Obama isn't a socialist.
 
soccerboy22 said:
I think people are going to ignore the obvious in order to either support Beck or not. No one really knows how Dr. King would have felt about the speech. His niece and attorney maybe right and he may have loved it, or he may not have. Point is I wish people wouldn't try and use what other think about how Dr. King would have felt. And unfortunately he is not around for us to ask.
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I think we either except that he was the man we think he was or he was a charleton ala Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton. Id like to think he was the real deal. Human..fallible...but very real.
 
Scarecrow Akhbar said:
Hello?

Social justice is the antithesis of "civil rights". When somoene is agitating for the government to steal property from people to throw it at other, favored, political subgroups, that's wrong, immoral, and, oh, by the way, unconstitutional.

Clearly social programs are also unconstitutional. MLK's stance in favor of these collectivist socialist handouts marks him ultimately as an enemy of American freedom.

Discrimination against people on race = bad. BUT, if a private person chooses to conduct his business only with a selected race, that's how he's expressing his freedom in a country that is supposed to be free. Restricting the invidual's freedom violates his civil rights. Period.

That's that. When, however, the government, which has a lawful monopoly on the use of force and the responsibility to act in all the people's interests, the government should not be allowed to discriminate.

The people are one group, the government is another. The Civil Rights laws and the silly notions of "social justice" want to pretend that the people should be constrained by the same rules the government is supposed to be shackled with. And that ain't the case.
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Emphasis mine.

Scarecrow: The highlighted section is just wrong on so many Jim Crow levels.

In order to have a business in the USA, you have to be an equal opportunity employer. That is the law. Period.
 
VanceMack said:
I think we either except that he was the man we think he was or he was a charleton ala Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton. Id like to think he was the real deal. Human..fallible...but very real.
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I agree and I think he was the real deal. You may not know but Dr. King graduated from BU and a lot of the people that knew him that are still around campus said he was the real deal. It was interesting because an article was published in our school magazine that talked about how Dr. King would have felt about Beck's gathering. And the main punch line was that we will never know how he felt since he is no longer here, but it is our duty to try and do that what he preached about equality. It was a really moving article.
 
Beck, Limbaugh and Palin are evil because they make a living out of opinion. They only have opinions so that they can get paid evil amounts of money. Leaders and representatives and others in power in Washington however are nothing but harmless cute lovable little fuzzballs who probably don't earn evil amounts of money when they actually run the country and actually have the power to do all of the horrible things disneydude my say of Beck, Limbaugh and Palin. But since Beck, Limbaugh and Palin get payed by voluntary contributions they're evil because extorting money and counterfeiting it to pay the salaries of our leaders and representatives isn't as long as they're progressive leftists.
 
Barbbtx said:
If you knew anything at all about Beck, you would know that he is a great admirer of MLK.
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Somehow I doubt that. Considering he's said things like this:

Christians Urged to Boycott Glenn Beck - NYTimes.com

Last week, the conservative broadcaster Glenn Beck called on Christians to leave their churches if they heard any preaching about social or economic justice because, he claimed, those were slogans affiliated with Nazism and Communism.

This week, the Rev. Jim Wallis, a liberal evangelical leader in Washington, D.C., called on Christians to leave Glenn Beck.

“What he has said attacks the very heart of our Christian faith, and Christians should no longer watch his show,” Mr. Wallis, who heads the antipoverty group Sojourners, wrote on his “God’s Politics” blog. “His show should now be in the same category as Howard Stern.”

Mr. Beck, in vilifying churches that promote “social justice,” managed to insult just about every mainline Protestant, Roman Catholic, African-American, Hispanic and Asian congregation in the country — not to mention plenty of evangelical ones.

Even Mormon scholars in Mr. Beck’s own church, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, said in interviews that Mr. Beck seemed ignorant of just how central social justice teaching was to Mormonism.

The controversy began when Mr. Beck said on his radio show: “I beg you, look for the words ’social justice’ or ‘economic justice’ on your church Web site. If you find it, run as fast as you can. Social justice and economic justice, they are code words.

“Am I advising people to leave their church? Yes! If I am going to Jeremiah Wright’s church,” he said, referring to the incendiary black pastor who led the church attended by the Obama family members when they lived in Chicago. “If you have a priest that is pushing social justice, go find another parish. Go alert your bishop and tell them, ‘Excuse me, are you down with this whole social justice thing?’ ”
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and MLK said this:

A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom.
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An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity.
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But hey, what do I know.
 
Hatuey said:
Somehow I doubt that. Considering he's said things like this:

Christians Urged to Boycott Glenn Beck - NYTimes.com









But hey, what do I know.
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Thought you might be interested in knowing a little bit about Sojourners. Maybe you can see why they are attacking Glenn beck and vice versa.

The Washington Post reported that in 2007 Sojourners rented its mailing list to Barack Obama's presidential campaign.[5]

In July 2010, Marvin Olasky, editor-in-chief of WORLD magazine, wrote that Sojourners accepted money from George Soros, who has financed groups supporting abortion and atheism.[6] Jim Wallis responded as follows: "It's not hyperbole or overstatement to say that Glenn Beck lies for a living. I'm sad to see Marvin Olasky doing the same thing. No, we don't receive money from Soros." Wallis later admitted that Sojourners had, in fact, accepted funds from Soros' Open Society Institute. Wallis stated that the funds made up "the tiniest fraction of Sojourner's funding during that decade--so small that I hadn't remembered them."[6] The grants from the Open Society Institute totaled $275,000 from 2004 to 2007.[7] Wallis apologized to Olasky for his comments about him. Jay Richards wrote that Sojourners had received $2.2 million from various foundation grants from 2003 to 2009, including the Tides Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, the Wallace Global Fund, and the
 
:) and you may want to do a little more digging on Beck's description of Social Justice which he (correctly) identifies as a concept used to gain Christian support for the governemnt redistribution of wealth. Given that Jim Wallis said that "that was what the New Testament was all about" (the redistribution of wealth); it's not exactly much surprised he's reacting the way he does, but i wouldn't exactly take theological advice from him.
 
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American said:
You think you know that MLK wanted blacks to sit on their asses all day long and collect welfare checks. Unfortunately for you, MLK didn't mean that.
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What does that have to do with what I said? MLK was a believer in social justice and a government involved in the lives of people. He was a believer in a government with a wide range of social programs and funded them adequately. Glenn Beck believes in none of those things. As a matter of fact, his stupidity, much like yours - has led him to believe that the Christian movements for civil rights of the early and mid 20th century were something other than supporters of social justice. He thinks they were advocating for a holiday and having some streets named after MLK. The reality, my dear fellow, is that MLK was labeled a communist by people of his time. But then again so were most people who were supportive of welfare, providing better opportunities for blacks etc. That alone makes it impossible for Glenn Beck to be an 'admirer' of MLK and anyone claiming so is highly dishonest. Now, are you going to throw any more stupid one liners or go troll some other thread?
 
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Barbbtx said:
Thought you might be interested in knowing a little bit about Sojourners. Maybe you can see why they are attacking Glenn beck and vice versa.

The Washington Post reported that in 2007 Sojourners rented its mailing list to Barack Obama's presidential campaign.[5]

In July 2010, Marvin Olasky, editor-in-chief of WORLD magazine, wrote that Sojourners accepted money from George Soros, who has financed groups supporting abortion and atheism.[6] Jim Wallis responded as follows: "It's not hyperbole or overstatement to say that Glenn Beck lies for a living. I'm sad to see Marvin Olasky doing the same thing. No, we don't receive money from Soros." Wallis later admitted that Sojourners had, in fact, accepted funds from Soros' Open Society Institute. Wallis stated that the funds made up "the tiniest fraction of Sojourner's funding during that decade--so small that I hadn't remembered them."[6] The grants from the Open Society Institute totaled $275,000 from 2004 to 2007.[7] Wallis apologized to Olasky for his comments about him. Jay Richards wrote that Sojourners had received $2.2 million from various foundation grants from 2003 to 2009, including the Tides Foundation, the Ford Foundation, the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, the Wallace Global Fund, and the
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What does this have to do with what I said? You stated Glenn Beck was an 'admirer' of MLK. That, my dear, 'Barb', may I call you Barb? I feel like I should because I can just picture being one more white right winger who thinks they have the civil rights movement figured out, is a ****ing falsehood. For goodness sake MLK in his time was labelled a COMMUNIST and there is ample evidence that he at the very least sympathised so how in the **** could Glenn Beck be an admirer of MLK? No my dear, I'm sorry. That just won't do.

As far as George Soros goes, oh no! He's pro-choice AND an atheist? Well gosh golly! George Soros has also financed anti-communist movements in Eastern Europe during the 80s and has given money to countless charities. So, the, ****, what?
 
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pbrauer said:
If MLK were alive today, would he be on Glenn Beck's 'chalkboard?'

Definitely Yes
Maybe Yes
Definitely No
Maybe No
I don't Know
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Easily. If Beck had the intuition and resources of the FBI, he would have beaten them to the punch. Being an admirer does not stop a rush-to-judgment entertainer from ranting about the horrors MLK would unleash.
 
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Hatuey said:
What does that have to do with what I said? MLK was a believer in social justice and a government involved in the lives of people. He was a believer in a government with a wide range of social programs and funded them adequately. Glenn Beck believes in none of those things. As a matter of fact, his stupidity, much like yours - has led him to believe that the Christian movements for civil rights of the early and mid 20th century were something other than supporters of social justice. He thinks they were advocating for a holiday and having some streets named after MLK. The reality, my dear fellow, is that MLK was labeled a communist by people of his time. But then again so were most people who were supportive of welfare, providing better opportunities for blacks etc. That alone makes it impossible for Glenn Beck to be an 'admirer' of MLK and anyone claiming so is highly dishonest. Now, are you going to throw any more stupid one liners or go troll some other thread?
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Of course, he was. Let me speak for MLK in his absence, when I give you the finger.
 
American said:
Of course, he was. Let me speak for MLK in his absence, when I give you the finger.
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Haha so you're unable to respond? Good to know. Now **** off you German troll.
 
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