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    Re: Operation Iraqi Freedom

    That being said I should have added an "Utter failure", just to distinguish people who think it it was generally bad and people who think it was completely bad.
    "All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language...No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." - John Donne

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    Re: Operation Iraqi Freedom

    Bush basically said it was over May 1, 2003. Chris Matthews said that day: "We are all Neocons now."


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    Re: Operation Iraqi Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    The last combat brigade has left Iraq, and Obama is ready to make a speech Thursday reporting this very message. There is no question that Operation Iraqi Freedom is complete, but did we win the war, or did we simply give up?
    Well considering we sacrificed thousands of American lives, trillion or so American dollars, all for something which was never our fight or problem in the first place....I think we simply gave up on this one. Not that it's a bad thing, we just should have done this 5-6 years ago. Though I do think that we should really get out in total right now. Not this newspaper headline game we're trying to play here "combat is over"! Like hell it is. We still have troops and such there. I think it's up to Iraq now and what they want and they're going to have to stand up and fight for it. Iraq is not worth anymore American lives.
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    Re: Operation Iraqi Freedom

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    It's not over, but certain things have been accomplished. We set out to occupy a country that wasn't a threat to us. At the cost of maybe two or three trillion dollars, an Iraqi civil war, and an increase in anti-American resentment that will last for decades, we succeeded. We weakened our economy, thus playing into the intentions of Al Qaeda when they attacked us, and squandered the good will that we'd enjoyed after 9/11. We legitimized torture. We undermined our credibility against real threats. We missed the opportunity to reconcile with Iran while at the same time strengthening their position in the region. And we made a lot of money for the business interests that drive American policy. All in all, not a bad result if you think like a politician.
    Make that conservative/tea bagger/Republician politician....
    The tremendous expense, the thousands of lost lives, the lost respect and good will - all this due to fear and ignorance....
    We will need 20 years of President Obama to undo all the bad that has been done.
    And maybe the scarecrow is right(without knowing it, of course), about this silly "Messiah" name calling....which I would expect from a child.

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    Re: Operation Iraqi Freedom

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    Operation Iraqi FreedomLet's get back on topic without all the partisan hackery

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