View Poll Results: Is the Tea Party Actually the Republican Party?

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  • Hijacked! Its the Republican Party in disguise!

    14 38.89%
  • Not Hijacked! Beck & Palin want this new Party to change America away from Republicans!

    10 27.78%
  • Beck & Palin (the Republicans) are TRYING to take it over but have NOT done so!

    6 16.67%
  • OTHER / I Dont Know

    6 16.67%
  • I thought this was a party! Now give me a cup of tea and a scone you jack-ass!

    2 5.56%
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    Re: Is the Tea Party Actually the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I dont think it was a hijacked movement. I think Republicans are disgusted by those within their ranks but cant see the value in leaving the party for a third party or becoming non-political. Are they mostly republican? Sure...because MOST conservatives value smaller government. SHOULD they be mostly republican? No...and I think thats the tragedy. As we see here daily there are very many ideological leftists that dont think beyind 'democrat'. But anyone with a brain...anyone that uses their head for more than a convenient place to hang their hat can look at our current state...a state arrived at courtesy of BOTH parties...and unless you LIKE the prospect of a bankrupt country then BOTH SIDES should consider alternatives...if not the tea party then SOMETHING. Fiscally conservative liberals maybe (I know...thats an oxymoron)...but SOMETHING.
    There ARE fiscally conservative liberals out there. Just because someone believes in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and other forms of social welfare doesn't mean they want to hand over the keys to the treasury to everyone. There are ways in which such social welfare programs can be made to be fiscally responsible and fiscally efficient. In fact, Single-Payer Health Care is designed with that in mind.

    However, when the other side says that those programs should be abolished instead of reformed it makes it very difficult for anything to get done.

    I'm not disagreeing with you here. I'm saying that most of the time ideologues get in the way of mutually beneficial compromises. After all, we're all Americans, and all Americans have a voice and a choice. Maybe instead of libertarians trying to have their way despite socialists in the U.S. and maybe instead of socialists trying to have their way despite libertarians in the U.S. both groups, along with all other groups, can work out things that are mutually beneficial to both sides.
    Last edited by samsmart; 08-27-10 at 07:14 PM.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Actually the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    There ARE fiscally conservative liberals out there. Just because someone believes in Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and other forms of social welfare doesn't mean they want to hand over the keys to the treasury to everyone. There are ways in which such social welfare programs can be made to be fiscally responsible and fiscally efficient. In fact, Single-Payer Health Care is designed with that in mind.

    However, when the other side says that those programs should be abolished instead of reformed it makes it very difficult for anything to get done.

    I'm not disagreeing with you here. I'm saying that most of the time ideologues get in the way of mutually beneficial compromises. After all, we're all Americans, and all Americans have a voice and a choice. Maybe instead of libertarians trying to have their way despite socialists in the U.S. and maybe instead of socialists trying to have their way despite libertarians in the U.S. both groups, along with all other groups, can work out things that are mutually beneficial to both sides.
    For what it is worth...some of us conservative types arent against health care. Ive said it from day 1 that I support health care reform but at the state level. I just have a really hard time trusting people (both parties) that have put us 14 trillion in debt in control of MORE of the budget and resources.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Actually the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    For what it is worth...some of us conservative types arent against health care. Ive said it from day 1 that I support health care reform but at the state level. I just have a really hard time trusting people (both parties) that have put us 14 trillion in debt in control of MORE of the budget and resources.
    Well, on a federal level, I am for some forms of health care reform. Specifically, I don't think people should be dropped for pre-existing conditions. I mean what's the point of getting health insurance to help pay for your medical needs if a health insurance company can drop your coverage and keep the money you invested in them to help pay for your medical needs?

    When it comees to socialized health care, I wouldn't mind if it was done on the state level instead of the federal level. That way it would be less influenced by national political shifts, and be more stable.

    As for the $14 trillion debt that both parties has put us under, that's why I'm for double-majority popular initiatives on a federal level. I think that the people should be able to pass federal laws if 1) a majority of the voters nation-wide vote for it and 2) the law passes in a majority of states. So not only would a popular initiative have to pass nationwide, it would also have to pass within 26 states. This way the people can better directly influence the federal government and maintain better accountability from the federal government.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Actually the Republican Party?

    Not voting because the poll options are idiotic and obviously biased.

    No, the Tea Party is not actually the republican party. Yes, the Tea Party is made up by a large amount of current or former disenchanted Republicans. Yes, the Tea Party is far more likely to vote Republican than Democrat.

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    Re: Is the Tea Party Actually the Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Same goes for the dems, of course.


    That's what happens when one side isn't willing to comprimise.
    You mean the way Republicans "compromised" from 2000 to 2006?

    This isn't the one-sided problem you pretend it to be.

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