View Poll Results: The Worst Genocidal Murderer in History

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  • Adolf Hitler

    16 18.39%
  • Andrew Jackson

    0 0%
  • Hernan Cortes

    1 1.15%
  • Josef Stalin

    33 37.93%
  • Mao Zedong

    24 27.59%
  • Genghis Khan

    8 9.20%
  • Nero

    2 2.30%
  • Emperor Hirohito

    0 0%
  • Tamerlane

    3 3.45%
  • Maximilien Robespierre

    0 0%
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Hey all,

    I'm just starting out this Poll business, and it looks like some fun. So, I've decided to make a Poll, er, polling who DP thinks is the word mass-murderer in history (no, not like Sweeney Todd -- I'm talking Genghis Khan, etc.).

    If I can get this polling mechanism to work correctly, there ought to be ten options...

    Please post who you voted for and why, if at all possible.

    Cheers!
    Pretty much every commie leader. I voted for Stalin, but Mao is right up there. He killed off a lot of people, particularly anyone who dissented against the government. Pol Pot did a good job too. He didn't have the pure numbers that Stalin or Mao were able to get, but percentage wise of his own people....he got a good number.
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny View Post
    I don't know if it's the worst but the Holocost is definitely up there I'd think. 6 million plus Jews killed and another 7 million people (gays, Russians, Poles and others).
    So you are saying the 13,000,000 people were exterminated during the Holocaust? Are you sure of that number?
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    So you are saying the 13,000,000 people were exterminated during the Holocaust? Are you sure of that number?
    No one can ever be sure exactly how many people died, I mean deaths in total during world war 2 are still sketchy at best.

    World War II casualty statistics vary greatly. Estimates of total dead range from 50 million to over 70 million.36 The sources cited on this page document an estimated death toll in World War II of 62 to 78 million, making it the deadliest war ever. When scholarly sources differ on the number of deaths in a country, a range of war losses is given, in order to inform readers that the death toll is disputed. Civilians killed totaled from 40 to 52 million, including 13 to 20 million from war-related disease and famine. Total military dead: from 22 to 25 million, including deaths in captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war.
    Given that not only jews were targeted for extermination, I'd say Johnny's figure could well be correct, if not more. We'll never know how many people truly died.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    No one can ever be sure exactly how many people died, I mean deaths in total during world war 2 are still sketchy at best.



    Given that not only jews were targeted for extermination, I'd say Johnny's figure could well be correct, if not more. We'll never know how many people truly died.
    Maybe you should consider the logistics involved in carrying out such a campaign, even without a full scale world war going on; using 1940's technology. It's just like the bombing of dresden numbers have come down over the years.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    When your body count goes into the hundreds of thousands and millions, I don't really see the point of comparing you to other assholes who also have body counts in the hundreds of thousands or millions.
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Hey all, decided to step in and correct a few misconceptions...

    Firstly, there's this annoying piece of propaganda that is somehow still circulating and thriving in America -- Stalin, while an absolutely horrible, murdering bastard, and a stain upon the name of the USSR, did not murder "20 million people+". The number just grows and grows, and it's ridiculous to watch it -- at first the Americans said he murdered five million people, and then ten. Then fifteen, then, no surprise, twenty. Soon enough it was forty, and I've even heard people claiming Stalin somehow murdered hundreds of millions of people, leaving me to wonder how exactly the people that believe that account for the fact that there are still Russians alive today.

    Anyway, all I'm saying is, Stalin DID commit genocide, and it would be wrong to play down that fact. But it would be equally wrong to grossly inflate the numbers for the sake of propaganda -- Stalin's Purges and the Holodomor could simply not have accounted for more than seven million deaths in total, and numbers in great excess of that are rank McCarthyist propaganda.

    On that note, to the man who said Karl Marx ought to be on the list -- that's a daft idea. Americans have another annoying tendency to see the word "communist" and equate it with "baby-murdering child-raping demon-spawn", which is, needless to say, no more true than equating all capitalists with "non-white-baby-murdering child-raping demon-spawn" -- so do try to keep political biases to an intelligible level, thanks.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    And the Islamic Caliphates as well as they killed far more people than even the Christian church in their genocidal campaigns against the non-believers the bulk of which were found in the Indian Subcontinent.
    Not really... most Islamic Caliphates were tolerant of other religions. Jews, Christians, and Muslims lived at peace in the Islamic world for centuries for the most part. It was in fact the Christian world that was the murdering bastards when it came to other religions and even other Christian sects.. the UK went through centuries of Catholic vs Protestant wars as did much of Europe.
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Hitler was the boss of the third reich, the blame is his, like i said, you can't blame the church as a whole, put the blame on the pope who told 'em to go the Americas, or the nobles that sponsored the expedition, the church of itself isn't any more responsible than the German state is for Hitler.
    And the Pope is/was the boss of the Catholic Church. So pretty much every Pope from the start of the Church to after WW2 should be on the list. Not to mention their proxies in the Spanish and Portuguese mains and so on and so on.

    For one.. Nero, while an idiot, hardly deserves to be in the same list as Hitler.. Nero burned down Rome, and not much else of consequence.
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    I would like to point out that the word "genocide" has a meaning, people. It's the systematic extermination of a people group (i.e. Hitler), not just another word for "mass murder" (i.e. Stalin).
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
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    At a certain point they're going to the Hall of Fame, and the point of keeping score goes out the window. They're all "winners" as far as I'm concerned.
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