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  • Adolf Hitler

    16 18.39%
  • Andrew Jackson

    0 0%
  • Hernan Cortes

    1 1.15%
  • Josef Stalin

    33 37.93%
  • Mao Zedong

    24 27.59%
  • Genghis Khan

    8 9.20%
  • Nero

    2 2.30%
  • Emperor Hirohito

    0 0%
  • Tamerlane

    3 3.45%
  • Maximilien Robespierre

    0 0%
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Put up Idi Amin

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History



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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Let's bump this back up to the top, and see if anyone has any new opinions...

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Lincoln isn't listed, but he killed over 600,000 people out of a population of 31 million. That gives him a per capita rate of 52.4 per 1000 people. He set the stage for future dictators like Stalin and Hitler.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Patriot View Post
    Lincoln isn't listed, but he killed over 600,000 people out of a population of 31 million. That gives him a per capita rate of 52.4 per 1000 people. He set the stage for future dictators like Stalin and Hitler.
    I didn't have room for Lincoln, but he, Idi Amin, and Torquemada were also candidates to make the list. Believe me, I agree with you -- while I'm all about big government, I'm not fond of the revision of history following the American Civil War. I absolutely and fundamentally disagree with most of the things the Confederacy stood for -- but I'm a firm believer in the human construct of law, and, with a few exceptions, the law ought to apply to everyone, from the poorest miser to the largest government.

    Again, with a few exceptions -- there are a few revolutions here and there (French, Russian, Reformation) that were "illegal" in terms of world standards, but necessary for the evolution of the human race.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    As I always like to do I use Historical facts.

    Most people are wrong thinking that Stalin was number one when in fact he was second and not very close at that.

    Mao is believed to have murdered between 60 & 70 million people depending on the source, making Stalin a piker in comparison killing in the neighborhood of a mere 40 million.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    As I always like to do I use Historical facts.

    Most people are wrong thinking that Stalin was number one when in fact he was second and not very close at that.

    Mao is believed to have murdered between 60 & 70 million people depending on the source, making Stalin a piker in comparison killing in the neighborhood of a mere 40 million.
    Historical facts are awesome. What's the top five look at for raw number of people killed and done by per capita?

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    As I always like to do I use Historical facts.

    Most people are wrong thinking that Stalin was number one when in fact he was second and not very close at that.

    Mao is believed to have murdered between 60 & 70 million people depending on the source, making Stalin a piker in comparison killing in the neighborhood of a mere 40 million.
    It has always annoyed me a bit that every few years, Stalin's murder count mysteriously goes up a few million. It's always struck me as a kind of revisionist history shyness -- as though the guys who want to badmouth Stalin are peeking their heads out and saying, "Uh, the KGB is really gone, then, is it?"

    Stalin was a mass murdering bastard, who defaced the name of the Soviet Union and all it stood for. Stalin's true heinous crimes are enough to send him to the lowest circle of hell -- to go crashing through the floor of it, in fact. Why do you need to falsify the facts? Why dishonour the millions that did die due to him by claiming every year or every textbook edition a larger number?

    The number of people that Stalin killed, as a direct result of his policies, initiatives, or planned inactions, is somewhere from 9-13 million people. An unfathomable amount. A disgusting amount. Don't ramp it up to 15 million, or to 20, or 30, or 40, as there's no point in doing so -- nobody's sitting around saying "Oh! Well, if it was only TEN million sentient beings, and not 20, then I guess he wasn't such a bad guy after all."

    Or, perhaps I've jumped down your throat too soon, and the mistake was accidental -- I see a lot of people confusing the number of Soviet dead in World War II with the number of Soviet dead from Stalin's purges. Two entirely different things, though, sadly, two similarly astronomical numbers.

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