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  • Adolf Hitler

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  • Andrew Jackson

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  • Hernan Cortes

    1 1.15%
  • Josef Stalin

    33 37.93%
  • Mao Zedong

    24 27.59%
  • Genghis Khan

    8 9.20%
  • Nero

    2 2.30%
  • Emperor Hirohito

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  • Tamerlane

    3 3.45%
  • Maximilien Robespierre

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    I'm not going to get into the whole "debate" of who killed more/who's better/worst crap. But I did want to comment on this.

    Are you daft or what?

    First how are we behind the curb of progress? You cite stem cell research which yeah, fine I'd give ya. However America has not only single handedly made the technologies available today possible, America has achieved far more technological progress in the past 250 some odd years than the rest of the world did in thousands of years.

    It wasn't until America was around before the light bulb was even thought of.
    You need to review history some more. Edison created the first commercially sucessfull light bulb, not the first light bulb

    It wasn't until America was around before horseless carriages were made. (IE cars)
    The first car was created by Germans, not the US. Ford was the one to mass produce cars on an assembly line. He did not create the first car
    It wasn't until America was around before planes were invented.

    And those are just the more notable ones. There are many many many more. Behind the curb? Get real. If it wasn't for America the majority of people would still be thinking that the world was flat.
    What? America discovered America?

    As for lack of universal health care? Yeah we are behind in it. Because the majority of Americans know that such a system is doomed to failure. And last I heard there are rumors of the European parliment wanting to go back to privatized health care. For the simple fact that they are running outta money.

    As for "enriched education"....get real. I just read and article not to long ago that there are schools over in Brit that are not going to teach about the Crusades or the halocaust so as not to offend muslims. It's pretty sad when history will not be taught just so as to not offend someone.

    Teachers drop the Holocaust to avoid offending Muslims

    Talk about rewriting history....
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You need to review history some more. Edison created the first commercially sucessfull light bulb, not the first light bulbWhat? America discovered America?
    I have learnt, through arguing with him, that he's nothing more than an American Ultranationalist with an intensely poor grasp of history -- and last time I told him off, he got me banned. So I've quite trying to show him the word of reason, and I suggest you do the same -- it's no use arguing with a brick wall of ignorance.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I have learnt, through arguing with him, that he's nothing more than an American Ultranationalist with an intensely poor grasp of history -- and last time I told him off, he got me banned. So I've quite trying to show him the word of reason, and I suggest you do the same -- it's no use arguing with a brick wall of ignorance.
    He does not appear to be the brightest bulb of the bunch, but I doubt he will be able to get me banned or temp suspended
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It wasn't until America was around before planes were invented.
    George Cayley, England, made the essential conceptual leap to separate propulsion from the lifting devices, 1805.

    Otto Lillienthal studied gliders, including what today are called hang gliders, in the late 1800's. His work, and his death by falling, was extensively studied by the Brothers Wright. Their decision to build the original canard-style Wright Flyer III, a statically unstable configuration, was influenced by their desire to not lose control of their craft.

    Fact of the matter was that technology had advanced to the point that if the WB's hadn't built that plane of theirs, someone else was going to do it in the next decade.

    The history of invention is replete with duplication, near misses, and just timing.

    HOWEVER, without America, there'd probably be no document resembling the Bill of Rights or the Declaration of Independence. And THOSE are the most important contributions any single nation has ever made to humanity.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    A poll on genocidal leaders, or penis measuring contest with irritating European socialists? If the former, I stand with Hitler and Stalin being pleasurable enemies for the historians working on enlightening the public. If the latter, I side with anyone against the persons who said the following, " I would like to point out that us "Eurosocialists" don't hate what America stands for -- we just think you're backwards tools. It isn't fitting for us to hate lesser beings. " and "Ahh your usual crap. First off European history is longer than 100 years.. I know as an American that can be mindblowing that a nation has a history longer than 250 years, but that is a fact."

    European snobbery is not a substitution for discussion of decency and political leadership.
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You need to review history some more. Edison created the first commercially sucessfull light bulb, not the first light bulb
    So? Electricity has actually been used for thousands of years. But it was Americans that successfully made it available to everyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    What? America discovered America?
    Nope. But it wasn't the Europeans either. There is evidence that the Chinese where here a few thousand years ago. (I'll admit that I didn't know about that until a couple of weeks ago until I watched the history channel.)
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Honestly, I have to go with Hitler simply because that was the only one listed that wasn't the flail of war or revolution or some massive policy bungling misleadingly labeled mass murder by propagandists.

    People often cite Hitler's remarks about the Armenian Genocide as though it has a connection with the Final Solution, but in fact he was talking about Poland. The plans for Poland and the other Slavic nations are quite disturbing. Had the Nazis won the extermination of the Jews would be a footnote in history compared to what would have happened to the Slavic peoples.

    The only thing Stalin did that might qualify as genocide was the Holodomor and Mao was not a dictator making his accountability for the exaggerated figures definitely questionable with nothing being akin to genocide.
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    I have learnt, through arguing with him, that he's nothing more than an American Ultranationalist with an intensely poor grasp of history -- and last time I told him off, he got me banned. So I've quite trying to show him the word of reason, and I suggest you do the same -- it's no use arguing with a brick wall of ignorance.
    You might want to check who it is that Lord Tammerlain was speaking to. I have never gotten you banned. I've never gotten anyone banned on any forum that I have EVER visited. I like to fight my own battles thank you. I also have a firmer grasp on history than you think.
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    George Cayley, England, made the essential conceptual leap to separate propulsion from the lifting devices, 1805.

    Otto Lillienthal studied gliders, including what today are called hang gliders, in the late 1800's. His work, and his death by falling, was extensively studied by the Brothers Wright. Their decision to build the original canard-style Wright Flyer III, a statically unstable configuration, was influenced by their desire to not lose control of their craft.

    Fact of the matter was that technology had advanced to the point that if the WB's hadn't built that plane of theirs, someone else was going to do it in the next decade.

    The history of invention is replete with duplication, near misses, and just timing.

    HOWEVER, without America, there'd probably be no document resembling the Bill of Rights or the Declaration of Independence. And THOSE are the most important contributions any single nation has ever made to humanity.
    And Einstein also based his work on past scientists also. Everyone that has ever invented anything was due to past work by others. (with maybe the exception of the caveman and the club ) But the credit still goes to those that make the actual invention actually work in real life. That's just the way that life is.

    Definately agree with you on the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    And Einstein also based his work on past scientists also. Everyone that has ever invented anything was due to past work by others. (with maybe the exception of the caveman and the club ) But the credit still goes to those that make the actual invention actually work in real life. That's just the way that life is.

    Definately agree with you on the Bill of Rights and the Declaration of Independence.
    Hello?

    I was pointing out that anything more complicatd than stone spear points and fire are invented via community effort.
    That's it. The significant thing about the Wright Brothers that no layman gives them credit for is their understanding of the technology of the propeller. That is their single most significant invention, showing the completeness of their understanding of the issues and problems of powered flight. The Wright propeller curved it's airfoils to maximize the lift generated by each section of the blade. Prior to that, the attempts at propeller technology looked like oars.

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