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  • Adolf Hitler

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  • Andrew Jackson

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  • Hernan Cortes

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  • Josef Stalin

    33 37.93%
  • Mao Zedong

    24 27.59%
  • Genghis Khan

    8 9.20%
  • Nero

    2 2.30%
  • Emperor Hirohito

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  • Tamerlane

    3 3.45%
  • Maximilien Robespierre

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    God. (allegedly!)
    Based on what?


    Both World Wars (15 million in the First and 60 million in Europe's Second civil disturbance) beat each other out for the "Guinness" historical record for highest death count. Of course, with Mao engineering the death of 40 to 70 million people, Stalin engineering 9 million corpses, and Pol Pots 1 million in Cambodia one could argue that Communism or Socialism is the history's worst genocidal murderer.

    No matter the culprit, that's a total of about 130 million people that died in the twentieth century without religion behind it or God instigating a thing. The "Age of Ideology" was horribly brutal to humanity. It was an age where idiots professed to engineer systems of governance that "perfected" society. Perhaps we have learned as a people that imperfect human beings will always dissapoint the "perfect" system. However, many in this world still long for that next "-ism" to create utopia, don't they?

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    evidence?
    "The Christian Church" is what allows his kind to alleviate European responsibility for their instigated World Wars that have caused more death than anything. In the end, no religion can compete to what Europeans did without God in the 19th and 20th century. On an economic level, Europeans can be accused. On an Individual basis, Europeans can be accused. And on a global event, Europeans can again be accused. But the church? In the end, it goes back to Europeans and their use of religion to slaughter and ethnically cleanse people (even their own).

    I have always found it quite comical how Europeans pretend that all bloodshed across Europe and in colonies was due to "Christianity" until the turn of the century when they simply decided to slaughter without God. Isn't it obvious that "God" was never the problem?

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    So that's why Europe ended up with lower growth rates than the US during the crisis, even though US started the crisis. Actually the unemployment in Europe is the same as US, but it did increase more in the US. However, american unemployment is going down much faster as well. Why? Because in Europe it is very hard to fire employees, also there are more restrictions for companies to invest and create jobs.
    Well, there's also the fact that American unemployment is normally low, which gives it a natural place to drop, whereas European unemployment is naturally high and doesn't have much room to go before it reaches its norm. Also, when Europeans were scoffing at American "Bail Out" programs to preserve the morons in our economy, Europeans negated to impliment any real damage control on their end, which is why the tribes of Europe (under the EU) have been at each other's throats as they evolved into their own "Bail Out" programs.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by MSgt View Post
    Neither. Don't get too offensive. I have a way of embarrassing the ignorant like you who feel the need for personal insults to "prove" their adulthood.



    You won't debate these things because one, they have nothing to do with the subject of genocide, and two, you are focusing on particular aspects of western society, which is what I could do. Pointless, seeing has how America is greater at some things and Europe is greater at others. But I'm an an adult capable of discussing as an adult.

    Back to genocide, Europe's ongoing fascination for genocide lasted well into the twentieth century with Germany and Russia and into the 90's in the Balkans where European governments were more than willing to ignore. And Spain was a dictatorship of brutality and oppression well into the 70s was it not? But this is a European progress Europeans pretend doesn't exist as they unfairly bash away at a nation across the ocean that long placed genocide in the rear view mirror.

    Your intentional use of "young nation" is clinical proof of the resentment held by Europeans who can't cope with the fact that your historical powers have been reduced to nothing in the face of usurpers across the sea largely through your own behaviors. Grow up.



    America has faced, admitted, and facilitated apologies on many levels to native Americans. It can not bring back the dead. What has Europe done about it's long history of ethnic cleansings and genocides throughout history? America's one inherited genocide on the American frontier equals the countless genocides across Europe throughout history? To you this is sound, because Europeans have a psycological need to alleviate guilt and cultural shame. To answer your question, it was America that fought a Civil War to free slaves and America that identified what it had done to the native American long after Europeans set the pace of genocide (prior to 1774). Come the twentieth century, it was America that had to come across the ocean to make Europe face it's own genocides during WWII and again in the 90s in the Balkans. Could you not do this on your own? History suggests a definate no.



    Typical European. Paying attention Bub? He and Pete represent your kind......

    It's your education systems that have been long seeking to rewrite history in a fashion that leaves you with a sense of dignity. In the end, it was American forces that had to come across the ocean, after fighting it's own war in the Pacific, to engineer Normandy. After fighting the Japanses largely all alone, Americans had to come to your pathetic aids because you weren't strong enough or culturaly savvy enough to preserve yourselves. It was America that facilitated the counterattack after the British had been kicked off the continent (France was nothing and Spain was a non-player). It was America that got sucked into what was your business to handle but proven incapable to handle. It was American oil that provided the bulk of resources to aid the allies. In the end, German engineered genocide was put to the rest because America decided to be a player in your unearned liberations (which Russia now receives aaaaaaaal the credit).

    Is this where European education has evolved to now? What say you Pete? Seeking America as the coward in history? Pathetic. Your'e just embarrassed that you can never solve your own self induced crisis without us. Even WWI needed an American engineered Bellaeu Wood to save Paris and turn that first European civil war around. And the Cold War? Good luck without American power. In the end, you wish to call us cowards for showing up late as if we are responsible for you. Then you boldly label us as "young" as if we don't matter. You very much appear to have emotional problems of identity (wannabe Soviet) while seeking to blast America no matter what. In the end, Germany was the power in Europe. It would have been far less deadlier to Americans to simple shake German hands rather than liberating the defeated French, bruised out British and what ever else was in the underground. A Cold War would have been far easier too with an allied Nazi Germany taking the heat from the Soviet Union.

    Congratulations Pete. Your hunger to blast all things American has you celebrating stupidity.




    It's not about showing you anything. It's about having to be involved in your messes. Were you involved with our Civil War or Civil Rights or dealing with Native American genocides, which were rooted in European engineering in the 17th century? Nope. Americans tackled these things within their own society without outsider help. Can European ever say the same thing with both World Wars, a Cold War and the "Yugoslavian" event proving otherwise?




    Hardly war crimes. In the mean time, the French were torturing hundreds of thousands of Algerians publicly (no punishments handed out). But this is what Europeans like you do isn't it? Seek any American imperfection to make themselves feel better about a complete absurdity in their history as if it soothes the guilt. Hell, a few waterboard events against probable terrorists makes European torture programs non-existent. Hundreds of thousands of tortured Algerians are washed away because a handful got waterboarded by Americans in 2005-ish.

    Here you actually sought the Korean War and Vietnam War (French origins by the way) to wash away Nazi Germany behavior. I guess the ovens and the 18 million slaughtered in Korea and Vietnam for their differences from "perfection" escaped the history books you've personally made for yourself (and apparently Pete EU).



    We do. You people have proven to be more than capable of causing global crisis and not capable of dealing with them in the end without us. We have not needed you. It's you that have eventually grovelled for support and aid. You call us cowards for showing up late? I call you inept and completely proven to be incapable of handling your own instigated affairs. Even today's economic crisis is beyond European capability because you all leach so strongly to American table scraps for support and growth. In one breath you accuse us of being the "world policemen" and then accuse of cowards for not poking our noses into your affairs before you'ev obliterated any chance of self preservation. Your kind are pathetic. So deep in your denials of self identity you cling to fantasy and stupidity for your own sense of fabricated dignity and pride.
    My God, you're like a Glenn Beck quote machine. With your left hand you tell me off for calling you blinded and ignorant, and with your right, you call me the very same thing. I'm not going to go through your veritable excerpt from the Tea Party Manifesto, as anyone who reads it quickly gathers that if you had replaced all your words with "USA! USA! USA!", you would've achieved the same effect -- that is, rallying the nationalistic, idiot masses of your nation to a history so warped you probably believe Rush Limbaugh when he says America is God's Blessed Gift to the Earth.

    I could go into detail and list every problem with your little rant, but it'd be a waste of my time -- I'm simply going to pick out a few pieces of lunacy that shine so bright I don't know how anyone can't be totally aware of your blinding bull****.

    Firstly, America didn't win either of the World Wars. At the end of the day, you can ask any historian whose names don't include "Glenn" or "Beck" in that order, and they'll tell you such. It boggles my mind that Americans somehow think that their country, which cowardly came late to both wars, fought in only a small minority of the battles, and pathetically supplied both sides, can somehow claim they won the wars. It is, to anyone with any historical knowledge whatsoever, precisely as ridiculous as claiming that Australia won the world wars. If the Australians want to think that, we'll bloody well let them.

    For another point, America's try at crimes against humanity absolutely pales in comparison to Europe's... If you forget about the Phillipines at the turn of the century, the KKK and daily lynchmobs in the South across the Depression, the massacres of Latin and South Americans by CIA agents, the race riots all across post-war America, Detroit 1968, the MacArthurite policies of napalming everything that moved in Vietnam, or mining everything that COULD move in Korea, Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib, or those regrettable McCarthyist executions during the, what, fifth, sixth wave of the Red Scare? I might also note that fighting a civil war over the issue of freeing blacks from slavery sixty years after the civilised world peacefully voted to do so is nothing to be proud of.

    I also find it amusing that in the post directly below the one I'm responding to, you defend and glorify all things European, just because Europe was Christian and the Middle East was Muslim at the time. Well done, that.

    So let me give your little hierarchy a try, yeah? I imagine that you'll always support the Europeans in an argument over the Muslims, but you'll support the Americans over the Europeans. And then, just a wild guess, your dogma will tell you that within the "American" circle to side with anything labelled "Republican" over anything labelled "Democrat", and beyond that, at your innermost circle, to support anything "Conservative" over anything "Liberal".

    So, you essentially think that only Conservative Republican Christian Americans are right, and everyone else is a Godless/worthless/spineless/foreign piece of scum.


    You're the kind of man that makes your country great, sir!

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Wouldn't this be like comparing Jeffrey Dahlmer to Ted Bundy? Look, Stalin killed 20 million and Mao killed 60 million and Hitler killed 12 million, does that mean that Mao was most evil, Stalin was the second most evil, and Hitler was the third most evil? NO! It's a ridiculous comparison. It would be like saying Ted Bundy was more evil than Jeffrey Dahlmer because he managed to kill more people.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Wouldn't the worse one be the one that killed the least, as they'd suck at being a genocidal mass murderer.
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Wouldn't the worse one be the one that killed the least, as they'd suck at being a genocidal mass murderer.
    I'm not surprised by your dark sense of humor.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    I'm not surprised by your dark sense of humor.
    Well there's no fun in taking history seriously.
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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Well there's no fun in taking history seriously.
    I made a note of your dark sense of humor, not the fact that you were making a parody of the thread.

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    Re: Worst Genocidal Mass-Murderer In History

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You should have put the Christian church on there... they killed far more people including genocidal campaigns against non believers.
    Put the Spanish Inquisition in there, the bastards.
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