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    "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

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    Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots: Stop Your Demagogy About The NYC Mosque! | Ron Paul .com

    How much do you agree/disagree with Ron Paul in this article? Explain
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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    Read the article then respond to the poll. Please don't vote unless you've read the article.

    Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots: Stop Your Demagogy About The NYC Mosque! | Ron Paul .com

    How much do you agree/disagree with Ron Paul in this article? Explain
    Ron Paul's a ****ing idiot, he's answering a question no one asked. We all agree with their right to build the Mosque but it seems Ron Paul is opposed to our right of self ownership not to enter into a contractual obligation to trade our labour for their capital and our right of free speech to encourage others to do the same. He likewise tries to paint the man behind this Mosque as innocent and us as bigots when the fact is this man is an overt Sharia supporting Islamist attempting to build a Mega-Mosque at ground zero who has compared the U.S. unfavorably to AQ, has said that the U.S. was an accessory to 9-11, that OBL was made in the USA, and has refused to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization, actually come to think of it, he and Ron Paul are ideological fellow travelers. **** Ron Paul, **** him in his stupid hypocritical ass.

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Ron Paul's a ****ing idiot, he's answering a question no one asked. We all agree with their right to build the Mosque but it seems Ron Paul is opposed to our right of self ownership not to enter into a contractual obligation to trade our labour for their capital and our right of free speech to encourage others to do the same. He likewise tries to paint the man behind this Mosque as innocent and us as bigots when the fact is this man is an overt Sharia supporting Islamist attempting to build a Mega-Mosque at ground zero who has compared the U.S. unfavorably to AQ, has said that the U.S. was an accessory to 9-11, that OBL was made in the USA, and has refused to condemn Hamas as a terrorist organization, actually come to think of it, he and Ron Paul are ideological fellow travelers. **** Ron Paul, **** him in his stupid hypocritical ass.
    Wowzers, that's a lot of vitriol.

    As for Paul's statement, I agree with most of it. This "Ground Zero Mosque" issue is drawing out much emotional sensationalism from both the right and the left. As others have stated, no one can dispute the right for them to build and assemble there.
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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
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    Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots: Stop Your Demagogy About The NYC Mosque! | Ron Paul .com

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    Largely agree.

    The issue is a moronic distraction.
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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    I mostly agree, it's the biggest non-issue of the year.
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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Yeppers, Ron Paul is still a fool.

    No fool like the old fool.

    The libertarian principle to own property does not extend universally everywhere.

    I don't see Ron Paul defending this right he says convicted child molesters must have to buy a house across the street from his victim's school and live in it.

    But, if you're going to take Paul's silly theory of completely unrestricted property rights to heart, that's exactly what he means.

    A man can't buy a half-acre corner lot in a residential neighborhood and build a totally nude strip club. Ain't gonna happen, and Paul wouldn't defend it.

    Why are people limited from building willy nilly?

    Because property is purchased and sold based on more than acreage. Neighborhood, zoning, and appropriateness of the construction to the community are all perfectly rational libertarian considerations of any project. Libertarians do not live in a vacuum.

    It's completely inappropriate for terrorists to be allowed to build a temple to terrorism on Ground Zero. Period. No rational person argues it is. Rationalizing persons who want something else argue for this.

    Just in case you're unfamiliar with the term, rationalizing is the process people go through to convince themselves that the third eclair won't show up in their thighs. It's a form of lying that bears a loose resemblance to "reasoning", but the purpose is deceit.

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    Don't forget,Ron Paul is one of those silly people that actualy subscribe to the notion of Shared Blame. Is it any wonder that Paul wants to turn the discussion away from the victory tower the muslims are trying to build on Ground Zero?
    Last edited by Scarecrow Akhbar; 08-24-10 at 03:36 AM.

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It's completely inappropriate for terrorists to be allowed to build a temple to terrorism on Ground Zero. Period. No rational person argues it is. Rationalizing persons who want something else argue for this.

    Just in case you're unfamiliar with the term, rationalizing is the process people go through to convince themselves that the third eclair won't show up in their thighs. It's a form of lying that bears a loose resemblance to "reasoning", but the purpose is deceit.
    And that isn't happening. If anyone is rationalizing it's you. Your saying to yourself that it's okay to stop religious freedom because "all muslims are terrorist, and it's a shrine to terror" Give me a break
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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Largely agree.

    The issue is a moronic distraction.
    I feel like this whole thing is being blown way out of proportion. I personally have no issue with the Islamic Center/Mosque being there... but I'd prefer they move it because I'm concerned about their safety... not to mention I'm worried about the collateral damage that could be done if someone tried attacking the Center.
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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I don't see Ron Paul defending this right he says convicted child molesters must have to buy a house across the street from his victim's school and live in it.

    But, if you're going to take Paul's silly theory of completely unrestricted property rights to heart, that's exactly what he means.
    Since when were all Muslims part of Al Qaeda? Your example has nothing in common with what is going on in this GZM debate.
    Last edited by Jucon; 08-24-10 at 03:50 AM.
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