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Thread: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Why are people limited from building willy nilly?
    For reasons that have nothing to do with rank demagoguery. Paul nailed it in the first paragraph.

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Really? How is exactly exercising free speech and encouraging people to exercise their right of self ownership to refuse to enter into contractual obligations to trade their labour for the Mosque owner's capital anti-Constitutional? Calling for state intervention would be anti-Constitutional but much like Ron Paul you're answering a question no one bloody asked.
    Scarecrow asked it, and so have others. And Paul answered your question, too:

    Many fellow conservatives say they understand the property rights and 1st Amendment issues and don’t want a legal ban on building the mosque. They just want everybody to be “sensitive” and force, through public pressure, cancellation of the mosque construction.

    This sentiment seems to confirm that Islam itself is to be made the issue, and radical religious Islamic views were the only reasons for 9/11. If it became known that 9/11 resulted in part from a desire to retaliate against what many Muslims saw as American aggression and occupation, the need to demonize Islam would be difficult if not impossible.

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    When Ron Paul is right, he is right. This is precisely what many of us have been saying about this ginned up pile of **** "controversy" since the hate merchants started feigning their faux "indignation" and phony self-righteous crapola that somehow their "precious little feelings are all butthurt" that anyone besides their ilk deserve the very same "rights" they DEMAND for themselves. These selective "Constitutionalist" Teabaggers are simply bigots by another name.

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Scarecrow asked it, and so have others. And Paul answered your question, too:
    No. A legal ban on building a monument to the martyrs on Ground Zero is perfectly acceptable. As I stated, libertarianism isn't anarchy, and communites that don't have standards aren't communities.

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    What can one say? Ron Paul is right again. Dead on.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    No. A legal ban on building a monument to the martyrs on Ground Zero is perfectly acceptable. As I stated, libertarianism isn't anarchy, and communites that don't have standards aren't communities.
    I'll leave you and Ferris to argue about how acceptable it is. It's certainly demagoguery in that it's being used to whip up hysteria and distract from the real issues. Paul is bringing a much-needed sense of perspective. The fact that people are so worked up about this instead of the war or the economy is just sad.

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Ron Paul is just light years ahead of the rest of his party.
    I use a lot of satire and sarcasm so keep that in mind when reading my posts.

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Winston Smith View Post
    Scarecrow asked it, and so have others. And Paul answered your question, too:
    Ron Paul is a ****ing idiot, the inspiration behind 9-11 was purely motivated by religion, assertions to the contrary are a lie, if it were not for their religion they would not have been offended by the U.S. defending the Kingdom against the overt aggression from Saddam Hussein they would have been ****ing grateful for the U.S. spending it's blood and treasure to defend the Kingdom, it is only because of Islam that they see any infidel soldier on or near the holy dirt of Mecca and Medina as an occupation, so congrats Ron Paul you are a ****tard and wrong as usual. Ron Paul go read some Sayyid Qutb, study up on Qutb's formulation on the concept of Jahiliyya or STFU.

    We do not see all Muslims as being responsible for 9-11 but we certainly recognize the causal relationship that the Islamist ideology had to play in the attacks and now we are pointing to the words and actions of a specific overt Islamist and saying "hey this **** aint right," and now we're being labeled bigots for having the audacity to exercise our first amendment rights to encourage others to exercise their individual right of self ownership not to enter into contractual obligations to trade their labour for their capital? Sorry that **** doesn't fly Mr. Paul you mother ****er, you don't get to defend the property and 1st amendment rights of overt ****ing Islamists and try to deny the very same rights to us or critisize us for exercising them, you are a ****ing hypocrite Mr. Paul of the highest order, go Jerk off to Lew Rockwell you stupid ****!
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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Yes, because 60+ years of aggressive interventionist policies can in no way shape or form create hostilities towards the aggressor. Nope, it's all their religion. If it wasn't for Islam there wouldn't have been....I don't know, what are we all blaming on them now? It's kinda hard to take your angry, emotion riddled post seriously when it seems such a foolish argument.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: "Ron Paul to Sunshine Patriots" article about 'GZ Mosque'... Do you agree?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, because 60+ years of aggressive interventionist policies can in no way shape or form create hostilities towards the aggressor. Nope, it's all their religion. If it wasn't for Islam there wouldn't have been....I don't know, what are we all blaming on them now? It's kinda hard to take your angry, emotion riddled post seriously when it seems such a foolish argument.
    60+ years of intervention? Cite specific examples. I can think of two, one was Iran which contains a completely different type of Muslim all together. The 2nd would be the First Gulf war which was entered into in order to A) Defend a neutral Arab-Muslim ally Kuwait which was more Muslim than the secular Baathist regime, and B) to defend the most important sites in the world to Muslims from the aggressions of Saddam Hussein.

    After the war we did not steal the wealth and oil of the territory we liberated, because we didn't conquer Kuwait we intervened on the behalf of Muslims against the secularlist Saddam.

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