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    Re: Does the right (generally speaking) care for the minority?

    They care for the minority more than they care for the majority of working people in the world.

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    Re: Does the right (generally speaking) care for the minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I was asking if they care enough though. I realize they care for minorities, but not enough to get their votes.
    If we're speaking in terms of getting their votes - I think many if not most Republicans probably realize that the majority of minorities are going to vote Democrat no matter what (as past elections indicate), and thus don't consider it worthwhile to spend campaign funds on something unlikely to give much return.

    Or at least their campaign managers are thinking this, probably

    If some of those minorities are drawn in by their campaign efforts directed at the whole, all to the good.
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    Re: Does the right (generally speaking) care for the minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Here is a typical scenario I have seen on DP a lot lately. Let's use gay marriage.

    "The Judge was right to declare this law unconstitutional"

    some conservative's response

    "But 7 million people voted for it!!! Way to go judge just disregarding what the people want"

    This could be interchanged with the whole mosque ordeal also, I've seen people say "but 60% of NYers are against it."

    I'm just curious as to where this logic comes from? I thought it was Majority rules, Minority rights..Not Majority rules, majority tells minority's how to live there life.

    One theory I could see as reasonable, the Republican party is off base with many minorities and surely that has cost them in numerous elections so over time a generally bad taste has formed within the Republican party regarding minorities. Might as well turn my flame shield on now though
    I think in a lot of cases, it's not so much that they're trying to say 'we should do X just because the majority thinks we should', it's 'I think we should do X (for whatever reason), and the majority also supports that viewpoint'.

    They're using the fact that the majority agrees with them to add weight to their argument, not basing their argument strictly on the fact that a majority supports it.
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    Re: Does the right (generally speaking) care for the minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    So, what you're saying is that people can demand others be robbed to pay for aid to minorities and not believe those minorities don't need the help?

    After all, if they didn't need the help, ie, if they were equally competent as the majority, then there'd be no reason for these special soft-hearted empty headed little loving liberals to do them the favor of getting that money for them, right?

    Why do you think the liberal elites steal money from some people to throw at others? It ain't because they beleive the target recipients are competent, that's certain. That denies the logic of their actions.
    Again, you're saying that minorities require financial aid. In the case of gay marriage, they are a minority and don't require any kind of financial assistance, they just want to be considered as equals.

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    Re: Does the right (generally speaking) care for the minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    I was asking if they care enough though? I realize they care for minorities but not enough to get their votes.
    I think Republicans care more than Democrats for blacks especially.
    The problem is the blacks are always being mislead into thinking Dems are the ones who care because they are always making promises for more entitlements, better education, better jobs, better pay etc. for minorities.
    In the end, the promises are broken and blacks end up worse off or no difference.
    The Rep. don't make empty promises like that. They want everyone to succeed. When they start pandering to a group of people because of the color of their skin, that's when I'll know for sure it's not the party for me. Blacks are just as capable of success as anyone else. It's time they realized it and got out from under the Democratic party. It's only succeeded in keeping them down.
    Hopefully with more and more black conservatives coming out, things will change. Maybe there will eventually be so many, the terms Uncle Tom, Traitor, House Negro, Token Republican Black etc. will sound really stupid.

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    Re: Does the right (generally speaking) care for the minority?

    I smell poll stacking

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    Re: Does the right (generally speaking) care for the minority?

    "The right" is far too generalized a statement to vote "yes" or "no" on.

    And "care for the minority" is also quite generalized...not to mention biased (at least IMO).

    "Care for the minority" would seem to imply that they need to be cared about, seperate and apart from the whole.

    This, I cannot agree with.

    As a PART of the whole, sure.

    I voted "other".
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    Re: Does the right (generally speaking) care for the minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    If we're speaking in terms of getting their votes - I think many if not most Republicans probably realize that the majority of minorities are going to vote Democrat no matter what (as past elections indicate), and thus don't consider it worthwhile to spend campaign funds on something unlikely to give much return.
    The Republicans best bet is to push the fear issue harder. Make the world wide terrorist threat more dangerous than it actually is, and paint Obama as a pacifist who isn't doing enough to protect us from al qaeda.

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    Re: Does the right (generally speaking) care for the minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    The Republicans best bet is to push the fear issue harder. Make the world wide terrorist threat more dangerous than it actually is, and paint Obama as a pacifist who isn't doing enough to protect us from al qaeda.

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    Funny you would say that.
    This is one area where I think Obama is not a TOTAL failure.
    I'm sure Dems would like it if we went after him on the terrorist issue instead of jobs, and his job killing policies for example. I'm hoping the Rep. don't get distracted from that.

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    Re: Does the right (generally speaking) care for the minority?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    80 percent of the people should really vote Democrat because it's the peoples party, but unfortunately they are also susceptible to fast talking Republicans, and their media aiders and abettors, who over exaggerate benign situations into major threats.

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    Wow - not making assumptions and lumping us together now are you? I vote republican occassionally when I feel it is right. Sometimes a democrat will run on a few points that I could personally benefit from, being a middle-class citizen (i.e. the 'people' of the 'people's party'). But simply because I could benefit from them doesn't mean that they are philosophically the 'right' thing to do. I would prefer to sometimes work harder if the only other alternative is taking money from somebody else who has done nothing wrong but work harder than I have so far and therefore makes more money. I know this isn't the case for all people who make more money than I, but if it's the case for even one person, I will be against the legislation.

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