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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    Yesterday, Rev. Franklin Graham appeared on John King USA on CNN denouncing Islam as evil and a religion of war.

    So, I want to get a feel for what people truly believe (no, "yes, because..." or "no, because..." BS). If you vote one way without any evidence, that's fine. I'm not even going to ask you to present evidence, though that would be great for this thread.

    So, the question is: Is Islam as a religion evil/a religion of war?
    I would say no its not evil. And war is not evil. I do not know if Graham read the bible but you can kinds all kind of examples of war in the bible.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    Yesterday, Rev. Franklin Graham appeared on John King USA on CNN denouncing Islam as evil and a religion of war.

    So, I want to get a feel for what people truly believe (no, "yes, because..." or "no, because..." BS). If you vote one way without any evidence, that's fine. I'm not even going to ask you to present evidence, though that would be great for this thread.

    So, the question is: Is Islam as a religion evil/a religion of war?
    How about: Is Franklin Graham's cranial cavity filled with turds? I'd say, "Yes, I never thought otherwise."










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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    You could make that general comment about many religions. Christianity was spread through war - the Roman empire adopted Christianity, and it was forced upon the pagans by law.
    Not until long after it had spread through peaceful uncoerced conversion within the empire, in fact Rome persecuted Christians.


    After Rome fell, and the Papacy was created, the Crusades spread Christianity at the tip of a sword. Later, the Inquisitions attempted to root out heresy while upholding piety.
    Actually the crusades did not spread Christianity they were fought in lands that were already Christian and had been conquered by t Muslims.

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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    At this point I can say that I know NO religion is 100% good. I can also say that Islam has caused a LOT of pain and HORRIBLE barbarian, sub-human, disgusting acts than anything since the Aztecs.
    For ME, I welcome GOOD people and I dont care what religion they belong to. A good-hearted man prevails over ANY religion.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    Yesterday, Rev. Franklin Graham appeared on John King USA on CNN denouncing Islam as evil and a religion of war.

    So, I want to get a feel for what people truly believe (no, "yes, because..." or "no, because..." BS). If you vote one way without any evidence, that's fine. I'm not even going to ask you to present evidence, though that would be great for this thread.

    So, the question is: Is Islam as a religion evil/a religion of war?
    no more than Christianity has been over the centuries but I grant you at this particular minute Christianity is not and a sizable minority of islam is. it has not always been this way and will not stay this way

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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    I pretty much agree with everything you've said here, although I don't believe that this somehow makes the Abrahamic religions fundamentally or inherently barbaric. After all, on the flip side scriptures in all three also echo some form of the Golden Rule and "love your fellow man."
    If only that was all they said. These creeds also list numerous instances when not to love ones' fellow man, and, in fact, to inflict various forms of brutality on ones' fellow man, chief among them being subscribing to any other creed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Also, the three faiths you listed aren't really proselytizing religions (or at the very least not to the degree that the Abrahamic faiths are). That's also an important distinction, and makes me wonder if posing the hypothetical of a mass conversion to any of those religions even makes sense.
    Religion doesn't make sense. It is, by definition, nonsensical.

    The point is we can see a correlation between these respective creeds and human behavior.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    According to the Prophet Muhammad, yes.

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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    According to the Prophet Muhammad, yes.
    There is no condemnation of Islam that does not also apply to Christianity.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    This is wildly incorrect. there are plenty of doctrinal differences between the two that expose one or the other depending on your preferences.

    Think that government and religion should be one and the same? Christianity is wrong and Islam is your answer. Think that war on the unbelievers isn't a religious duty imposed by the founder of your faith? Well, then chalk one up for Christianity, and chalk one down for Islam. Should the state taxes be considered the same as and used for charity? pick Islam for yes, Christianity for no.

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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    This is wildly incorrect. there are plenty of doctrinal differences between the two that expose one or the other depending on your preferences.
    There are differences, but nothing I would see any reason to attach any serious importance to.

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    Think that government and religion should be one and the same? Christianity is wrong and Islam is your answer.
    Well, seeing as Christianity doesn't really allow any deviation from it's perscriptions, basically, the only government it is compatible with is a Christian government, or a de facto Christian government.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Think that war on the unbelievers isn't a religious duty imposed by the founder of your faith? Well, then chalk one up for Christianity, and chalk one down for Islam.
    Well, that's a bit tricky; 'By the founder of your faith.' That's a neat little modifier. Still, I would say; yes. Jesus, this character, only makes a few outright exhortations to violence, like, for example, in Luke 19: 27; 'But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.' However, he repeatedly states that the law as written in the Old Testament still applies just as much as ever. So, killing unbelievers, as well as homosexuals, disobediant children, and any number of others, is not only condoned, but encouraged by the Bible. So, there's really no moral difference, here.
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