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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Agreed but I think you'll admit that we need more secular Muslims and less Islamists.
    Of course. And Europe is especially in dire need of them. Hence why the following would be a good idea.

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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    NO
    Because a known christian(Graham) says the opposite.
    Jesus would turn over in his grave if he know what men have done to his movement of two millenia ago.
    I only listen to those with 3 digit IQs.
    Just wanted to point out Jesus is no longer in his grave since he rose on the third day lol
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    Yesterday, Rev. Franklin Graham appeared on John King USA on CNN denouncing Islam as evil and a religion of war.

    So, I want to get a feel for what people truly believe (no, "yes, because..." or "no, because..." BS). If you vote one way without any evidence, that's fine. I'm not even going to ask you to present evidence, though that would be great for this thread.

    So, the question is: Is Islam as a religion evil/a religion of war?
    Nope. It is a religion of peace that has some war-like elements to it that are being drastically hi-jacked by extreme fundamentalists, that's all.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Islam was founded by a conqueror and was spread through war. Without question it is a religion of war and from its inception Islam has been most commonly spread through violence.
    Being spread BY war is not the same as being a religion OF war. Christianity was spread by war on many occasions, the most severe being the Spanish conquests in the Americas, Crusades, etc. People hi-jacking a religion, even its founder, does not make it anything different than the majority of those practicing it, and that majority is for peace.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Islam was founded by a conqueror and was spread through war. Without question it is a religion of war and from its inception Islam has been most commonly spread through violence.
    And?
    Islam did at times spread through war and conquest. What? You think it is the only religion who did so? Then I suppose Christianity is a religion of war if that is the criteria we are following.

    And the question fails. What Islam? What interpretation?
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    As a secularist sure, why not say it's evil.

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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    religion is evil- the concept (edit: - of evil-) would not exist without it
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    It's a religion, ergo it forbids men to use their brains for independent thought, ergo, it's evil. Islam was spread by the sword, and hasn't abandoned the concept of jihad, ergo, it's a religion of war.
    This makes some sense, I agree to an extent.
    Islam must clean its house, have they done that?
    And they have the gall to wonder why Americans tend to hate Islam. Of course, we are divided on this.

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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    I find the results of this poll most troubling.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    Being spread BY war is not the same as being a religion OF war. Christianity was spread by war on many occasions, the most severe being the Spanish conquests in the Americas, Crusades, etc. People hi-jacking a religion, even its founder, does not make it anything different than the majority of those practicing it, and that majority is for peace.
    Surely you know the practitioners of a religion typically do not follow closely the tenets of their religion. In the case of Christianity straying from the path is a bad thing, with Islam it is a good thing because Islam advocates oppression and war thus straying from it means being more tolerant and peaceful.

    Also, the difference between the situations you mention is that the first Crusades were purely defensive in nature. In the Spanish conquests of the Americas Christianity was not so much spread by war as by colonization itself. Most of the population of the former Spanish colonies are either dominantly Spanish or mixed. As such it is only natural for Christianity to be the dominant belief system there.

    More to the point religion was not tied up with the Spanish invasion as much as it was with the Arab invasions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Islam did at times spread through war and conquest. What? You think it is the only religion who did so?
    No, I think it is the only religion where war has been the primary form of proselytizing from its inception. Christianity spread peacefully for centuries before states adopted it and they did so without anyone forcing it on them. Islam was spread by war and violence from the very beginning. In recent years it has spread primarily by immigration. There are few converts to Islam in the Western world, it is almost entirely immigration that contributes to the growing Muslim population. Immigration from countries or areas that had long ago been converted by conquest.
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