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Thread: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Islam was founded by a conqueror and was spread through war. Without question it is a religion of war and from its inception Islam has been most commonly spread through violence.
    You could make that general comment about many religions. Christianity was spread through war - the Roman empire adopted Christianity, and it was forced upon the pagans by law. After Rome fell, and the Papacy was created, the Crusades spread Christianity at the tip of a sword. Later, the Inquisitions attempted to root out heresy while upholding piety.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Every religion is a religion of war.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    You could make that general comment about many religions. Christianity was spread through war - the Roman empire adopted Christianity, and it was forced upon the pagans by law. After Rome fell, and the Papacy was created, the Crusades spread Christianity at the tip of a sword. Later, the Inquisitions attempted to root out heresy while upholding piety.
    Actually no, this is something one can pretty much only say about Islam. The Roman Empire did not establish Christianity, but instead it was made the state religion after centuries of trying to suppress it. Christianity spread largely by leaders and governments adopting it. Armenia, Russia, and Ethiopia all adopted Christianity without being compelled by force. In comparison every major Muslim population save a small portion are in countries that were largely non-Muslim before a Muslim power invaded.

    The Crusades started as wars of self-defense against invading Muslim armies. Assigning some heinous motive to them is just mistaken. I am not going to deny that Christian countries have been more abusive of other religions than Muslims during most of their respective histories, but the question was about whether Islam is a religion of war and I would say it is, unlike Christianity.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    I say yes/yes. I'm afraid of them. I'd like to see us get away from using their oil, but we've waited too long, and done some dumb stuff that we are now paying for.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    This poll fails. It implicitly argues that Islam is a monolithic entity. It's like arguing that Christianity is one monolith with one set of ideals and practices.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    Yesterday, Rev. Franklin Graham appeared on John King USA on CNN denouncing Islam as evil and a religion of war.

    So, I want to get a feel for what people truly believe (no, "yes, because..." or "no, because..." BS). If you vote one way without any evidence, that's fine. I'm not even going to ask you to present evidence, though that would be great for this thread.

    So, the question is: Is Islam as a religion evil/a religion of war?
    I don't really believe in evil, but mainstream Islam is certainly violent and oppressive. Until secular Muslims become the overwhelming majority and not just the fringe minority that will continue to be the case.

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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Yes and no.

    Some parts of it, yes, but not all.

    I would say that (obviously) those parts (depending on how you define "parts") that support/are terrorists are an "evil/a religion of war".

    Other than that, I don’t really know enough to comment.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Met too plenty a Muslim to say its an evil religion. But obviously the many ignoramus members of this board have not and choose instead to believe what there far right extremist Christian skinheads have to say.
    Nonetheless it has its flaw's and aspects of it ARE evil, sure. Just like Catholics, Muslims can be nut jobs if they want to, and perfectly rational and tolerant when they want too aswell.
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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Yes, very obviously.

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    Re: Is Islam evil/a religion of war?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Met too plenty a Muslim to say its an evil religion. But obviously the many ignoramus members of this board have not and choose instead to believe what there far right extremist Christian skinheads have to say.
    Nonetheless it has its flaw's and aspects of it ARE evil, sure. Just like Catholics, Muslims can be nut jobs if they want to, and perfectly rational and tolerant when they want too aswell.
    Agreed but I think you'll admit that we need more secular Muslims and less Islamists.

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