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    Re: Should we worry that America will become Sharia compliant?

    I doubt we're anywhere close to being honestly Sharia Compliant.

    I think something like parts of Europe where there's a seperate allowable system of courts for religious law isn't quite as unlikely.

    I think its hyperbole filled fear mongering, much akin to what was done most of the past decade by the other side with regards to Bush and domestic security issues.

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    Re: Should we worry that America will become Sharia compliant?

    Britain has Beth Din and Sharia "courts" operating at the same level as arbitration. Both parties must agree to be bound by any decision, and British law always takes precedence.
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    Re: Should we worry that America will become Sharia compliant?

    Should we fear it? Sure. Is it likely to happen anytime soon? I doubt it.

    However we have come to forget many of our principles and values in the US. I can see anything being possible at some point.

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    Re: Should we worry that America will become Sharia compliant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Seriously? Seriously really? You see no differences in how it would be? Do you see many christians or prominent christian leaders advocating stoning or beheading people for adultry? For Homosexuality? I swear people become ridiculous at times when they just HAVE to take a shot at Christianity if they dare say anything poor about Islam.

    Is that saying a Christian government would be a great thing today? Absolutely not. All its saying is its ludicrous to suggest that a Christian Law Government today would be "no different" than the various Islamic Law Governments today.
    Firstly, I said "much" different, not "no" different.
    Secondly, I said difference between the people not the law itself. Because what I see is two groups of people who are seeking to take their religious beliefs and thrust it onto the rest of the nation. Gay marriage for example is opposed by many Christian organizations simply because gay marriage is outlawed by their religion, not because it has any practical or meaningful affect on anything in societ.
    Thirdly, I never said anything about the religion itself, this isn't about Christianity or Islam as a philosophy. I am a Christian myself. I was just talking about the people.

    One can look in history and see the result of Christian and Islamic, or any other theological governments, all are undesirable not because the laws or religion itself, but because the religion becomes a front for total control by the government. When a priest is also the political ruler he can make any rule he wants and claim it comes from God, and whether or not it can be found it whatever scripture he is following it can be re-interpreted or simply ignored because he has the power.

    Now could you also explain your twitching.

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    Re: Should we worry that America will become Sharia compliant?

    LOL, the twitching is from a pet peeve of mine...specifically with regards to the whole "christian nation" thing...that dates back to college and being a political science major and a particular class that beat us over the head with using the correct vernacular with regards to country, nation, and state. I still don't always remember to do it myself, but it pops up the most when talking about the christian nation stuff because that was something discussed in the class.

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    Re: Should we worry that America will become Sharia compliant?

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
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    Re: Should we worry that America will become Sharia compliant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Britain has Beth Din and Sharia "courts" operating at the same level as arbitration. Both parties must agree to be bound by any decision, and British law always takes precedence.
    England is playing with fire here, but we have always had something similar here.......underground "justice". ..aka "gangland murders", Mafia killings, lynchings of minorities, child abuse, woman abuse.....
    We have a long ways to go.....
    Last edited by earthworm; 08-21-10 at 01:11 PM. Reason: Spell check.

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    Re: Should we worry that America will become Sharia compliant?

    Are you kidding me? Most of us can't even become Evangelical Christian compliant. Any Sharia group that tries to implement laws in the US is going to face extinction.

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    Re: Should we worry that America will become Sharia compliant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Baralis View Post
    Should we fear it? Sure. Is it likely to happen anytime soon? I doubt it.

    However we have come to forget many of our principles and values in the US. I can see anything being possible at some point.
    Why should we fear it?
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    Re: Should we worry that America will become Sharia compliant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I keep hearing from conservative talk show hosts that Feisal Abdul Rauf (the Imam for the Park 51/Cordoba House/Ground Zero Mosque) wants a Sharia compliant America and that we should be worried.

    Why would Americans EVER condone cutting someone's hands off for stealing (they do also imprison people for theft)? Or stoning to death someone for committing adultery? Or lashing someone for having sex out of wedlock? Or killing someone who renounces their faith? Or allowing more than one wife? Or only allowing the husband to divorce his wife? Or killing homosexuals?

    Some of the other laws aren't that big of a deal, or are more related to personal ways of practicing Islam rather than crime and punishment.

    But to even humor the thought that we in America have anything to worry about this Imam wanting a Sharia compliant America IMO is laughable.

    To be honest I don't know how far the majority of Muslims in America would want to integrate Sharia Law into America, if at all. Some Muslims condemn some of the forms of punishment listed above. Though there is much covered in Sharia law, many of the laws conflict with the rights and practices we have in America. I simply do not believe the laws that go against our constitution and practices would ever be condoned in America.
    Do we have any reason to fear National Socialists obtaining political power in the United States? Does that mean that we shouldn't condemn the National Socialist Party? Oh and to be fair this Imam is opposed to the stringent penal system of mainstream Sharia, but that is only a difference in degree not in kind.

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