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    Is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?

    A Roman Catholic adoption charity's appeal to be allowed to discriminate against gay people wanting it to place children with them has been rejected.

    Catholic Care wanted exemption from new anti-discrimination laws so it could limit services provided to homosexual couples on religious grounds.

    The Charity Commission said gay people were suitable parents and religious views did not justify discrimination.

    BBC News - Catholic charity's appeal over gay adoption fails

    I would personally love to hear what you guys have to say.
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    Re: Is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    A Roman Catholic adoption charity's appeal to be allowed to discriminate against gay people wanting it to place children with them has been rejected.

    Catholic Care wanted exemption from new anti-discrimination laws so it could limit services provided to homosexual couples on religious grounds.

    The Charity Commission said gay people were suitable parents and religious views did not justify discrimination.

    BBC News - Catholic charity&#039;s appeal over gay adoption fails

    I would personally love to hear what you guys have to say.
    No, it isn't wrong for the government to pass laws forcing religious charities to consider homosexual couples to adopt children, because adoption isn't a religious issue.
    Last edited by samsmart; 08-19-10 at 06:23 AM.

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    Re: Is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?

    Woah, that's a double rainbow all the way. Great question. If one group's religious rights infringe a protected group's right to equal protection, wha happens... well, I don't know what the law in the UK says.

    I would say it's not a good idea, but I'd have to think about it a whole lot more and hear what people have to say -- people like lawyers or constitutional scholars. My instinct is that the judicial branch should avoid rulings that tell religious groups what they should and shouldn't do. But if the charity is a separate entity from the church, I would agree with the ruling.

    It's kind of funny, though, that homosexuals would want their children placed with a bunch of Catholics. That's just asking for trouble. Sorry, had to get that one in there.
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    Re: Is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?

    Hold on, the question posted in the poll and the one in the thread title are not quite the same and is quite misleading... I could a moderator please clarity this and remove my vote because I voted based on the question in the thread title.

    I think it is dead wrong for the Catholic charity to be forced to go against a very important religious principle to them. They have freedom of religion too. I am sure if it were an Islamic charity, the libs would defend their right to "discriminate" but since it is a Christian group... we can't have that... Sickening...

    What this may result in is religious organizations getting out of the business of providing adoption services altogther, and that would be a tragedy.
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    Re: Is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Hold on, the question posted in the poll and the one in the thread title are not quite the same and is quite misleading... I could a moderator please clarity this and remove my vote because I voted based on the question in the thread title.

    I think it is dead wrong for the Catholic charity to be forced to go against a very important religious principle to them. They have freedom of religion too. I am sure if it were an Islamic charity, the libs would defend their right to "discriminate" but since it is a Christian group... we can't have that... Sickening...
    I'm sorry, have i missed something? The thread title is: is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?
    The polls asks if its right to do so; yes or no, or other.
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    Re: Is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    I'm sorry, have i missed something? The thread title is: is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?
    The polls asks if its right to do so; yes or no, or other.
    I didn't think it was clear.... that is "this"? Is it what happened to the Catholic Church or is it referring to the thread title... if the former, my vote would be no, if the later, it would be yes...
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    Re: Is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?

    It is a tad misleading, as in not as clear as it could be. Had to reread it a few times to understand exactly what the OP wanted.

    Yes government can enforce rules on religious organisations. Religious organisations do not dictate the law, and can not pick and choose what laws they want to follow and not. Society as a whole has dictated that discrimination based on ones sexuality is illegal and hence religious organisations have to follow said rules even if it clashes with their religious dogma. If they dont like it, then dont get involved in areas where they can come in conflict with the law. Religious freedom does not extend to open discrimination against people based on sexual orientation, religion, sex or race. All it does, is expose how outdated and backwards said religion is.
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    Re: Is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?

    The more important question to me is why we leave adoption services in the hands of churches in the first place, when such a thing cuts across all religious lines.

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    Re: Is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The more important question to me is why we leave adoption services in the hands of churches in the first place, when such a thing cuts across all religious lines.
    The charity aspect of it I would assume.

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    Re: Is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    The more important question to me is why we leave adoption services in the hands of churches in the first place, when such a thing cuts across all religious lines.
    This.

    I wonder what this agency does with it's gay kids? Do they not let them in the program? It's run by a church, but it's a secular function. I'm all for a church not letting people in on their religious activities if they choose so. But this is a little more complicated.
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