"If religious instruction were not allowed until the child had attained the age of reason, we would be living in quite a different world" - Christopher Hitchens
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OK the link was taking too long to load, but I think I know what this one is about.
A Catholic Church that has been doing adoptions forever, now has to stop because their faith doesn't allow for them to adopt to gays. Right?
Well that's sad IMO. They will have to give up the orphanage just because the goverment won't allow them to practice their religion. Charity work like this is what churches do. Now I guess the government will have to take tax payer money and build one and hire people or else just not have a place for the children to go.
To keep from discriminating against gays they have to discriminate against the church. I hope they can settle this for the sake of the orphans.
People are voluntarily placing their children with this Catholic agency to handle the adoptions. I suspect that the parents place their children with them because they want their children to be raised Catholic. Private agency adoptions have a right to be just that--private. They can follow their own rules, etc.
If, however, this agency is receiving funds from the government of the UK, they aren't entitled to discriminate.
If I remember right, this came up last year sometimes, and during that discussion it turned out that the Catholic church was taking federal money to implement it's adoption program, or it was helping administer the federal program, or something similar. If that is the case, then the government has every right to put restrictions on how it is done.
If however this is Catholic funded, and the federal government is uninvolved, then I would consider it wrong.
I honestly have no issue with any private organization discriminating for it's employees, or customers. If it's a private company, that's their business. They should be perfectly free to do business with, or refuse to do business with whomever they wish for whatever reason they wish. (ditto for hiring/firing)
But, if this is a charity that is receiving govt assistance in some way - like tax breaks or funding - then they should lose all govt assistance if they wish to continue to discriminate. Should they be allowed to do it? Yes. But not with taxpayer money.
IF they wish to be in the adoption game, then they must follow state law. The state isn't going into the church and telling them what to do. The state is telling their secular charity (Catholic Charities is a 501(c)(3) set up by the Church to deliver services to the poor - it is NOT the Church in and of its self) that it has to obey state law.
Sorry, but that's the fact.
Some additional information on this. Source: Catholic charity loses appeal over gay adoption | Mail Online
The commission found that:
* It was beneficial to children waiting to be adopted to have as wide a pool of prospective parents as possible.
* Discrimination on the ground of sexual orientation was serious as it departed from the principle of treating people equally.
* Even if Catholic Care closed, children would still be placed into adoptive care by other means.
* Local authority officials found gay couples were often suitable prospective parents for 'hard to place children'.
* Respect for religious views was not a justification for discriminating against gays, because of the essentially public nature of adoption services.
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