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    Re: Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Do Mexicans use the word 'wetback' in talking amongst themselves? Do gays similarly use the word 'fag?" If we can't have a philosophical discourse about the use of sensitive words, then we truly have lost it as a tolerant, free society.
    They sure do. My point is, no one is going to validate themselves or try to argue an intelligent arguement to anyone after just repeating something like that over and over again.
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    Re: Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    What did Bill Maher say and how is what she said accurate at all? She says that all black people voted for Obama just because she is black, but on other shows apparently she tries to defend the idea of blacks voting for Republicans and being in the tea party. Can't have it both ways lady so which is it?
    Bill maher said the guys who flew the planes into the WTC were brave.

    I thought she said that black people say the n-word alot.
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    Re: Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Do Mexicans use the word 'wetback' in talking amongst themselves? Do gays similarly use the word 'fag?" If we can't have a philosophical discourse about the use of sensitive words, then we truly have lost it as a tolerant, free society.
    Dr. "wonder bread" Laura's domain is hardly philosophy or intellectual discourse.

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    Re: Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Bill maher said the guys who flew the planes into the WTC were brave.

    I thought she said that black people say the n-word alot.
    Well Bill Maher is a dick anyways that don't think his **** stinks so shame on anybody for giving him 2 minutes of time.

    Also sure that's fine. Generalizations can work both ways, and I don't much care for generalizations of white people either.
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    Re: Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    They sure do. My point is, no one is going to validate themselves or try to argue an intelligent arguement to anyone after just repeating something like that over and over again.
    I have never heard them do so, not the way I have heard it from Blacks. I still see nothing wrong with having a discussion. Dr. Laura was NOT calling the caller by the N word...
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    Re: Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Well Bill Maher is a dick anyways that don't think his **** stinks so shame on anybody for giving him 2 minutes of time.
    What does your opinion of Maher have to do with anything?

    Also sure that's fine. Generalizations can work both ways, and I don't much care for generalizations of white people either.
    She was actually pretty specific about it being on HBO and such.
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    Re: Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Last night (8/17) Dr. Laura said to Larry King she "wants to regain her First Amendment Rights" when she announced she was leaving her radio program when her constract expires. Tonight she partially blamed Media Matters for her decision.

    Do you agree with Dr. Laura that she lost her First Amendment rights?

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    Here is a video showing what she said on Larry King Live:


    I say no. I think she is just looking for an excuse to quit or rile her fans up or to get some tv appearances. Most talk show host say stuff that is controversial or at least say stuff that is controversial to liberals all the time. Liberals probably threaten to boycott every conservative talk show host sponsors regardless what the conservative or percieved conservative talk show host talks about. Heck some liberal groups boycott a company because they do not like the owner of the company's father.For example Michael Savage's son owns Rock star energy drinks. So liberals have boycotted Rock star energy drink and even made a fake conspiracy that he is trying to hide the relation(even though Michael Savage has bragged about the fact his son owns Rock star energy drink on his show,a book or two that he wrote and even had pictures) or that Michael Savage himself owns rock star energy drinks. The fact is a lot of extremist libs hate conservative talk show hosts and free speech and will do what ever they can to shut down down a talk show host. One of the tactics other than smearing lies of racism or some other BS is to boycott show sponsors or anything has to do with the talk show host. This is nothing new and these extremist libs are just ignored and disregarded. If she really got tired of racist double standards regarding the word nigger then she should have not apologized and stand stood her ground. I am sure she makes enough money for her bosses and show sponsors that she can get away with saying anything as long as she did not call for the extermination of a group of people or called someone a nigger in a derogatory manner. Besides that if she really did something so egregious then I am sure employers could have fired her regardless of the fact she has a contract. CBS fired Don Imus and he probably was more popular than Dr. Laura.
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    Re: Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    People care what Newsbusters thinks?
    Yes, some do, take Grim for example.

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    What's so funny?
    It's not just funny, it's hilarious for the esteemed (and I use that word very very loosely) conservative Media Research Center (Newsbusters), thinks Dr. Laura was censored, she wasn't. They obviously don't understand what the First Amendment is about. The govenment can't take Dr. Laura off the air for what she said, however there are negative consequences, for example your employer can fire you for you speech.

    The bottom line is Dr. Laura censored herself.


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    Re: Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    No. I do find it hypocritical that she gets dragged through the mud for saying the n-word explaining how people on HBO say it all the time, but if you're black and you actually call someone the n-word, it's funny.


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    Re: Dr. Laura Claims She Lost Her First Amendment Rights, Is she correct?

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    What did Bill Maher say and how is what she said accurate at all? She says that all black people voted for Obama just because she is black, but on other shows apparently she tries to defend the idea of blacks voting for Republicans and being in the tea party. Can't have it both ways lady so which is it?
    I believe her exact words were that "A lot of blacks" voted for him, not "All" blacks voted for him.

    And honeslty, looking at the context of how she used the N word, I think the flack she's getting is ridiculous. Does that mean her first amendment rights are being violated? No, but that doesn't mean these people are reasonable in getting upset either.

    How did she used it?

    She used it while referencing something while in the middle of a somewhat lengthy conversation with a caller concerning what is or isn't racist and the CALLER asked if the N-word was racist. This was her response:

    "SCHLESSINGER: Black guys use it all the time. Turn on HBO, listen to a black comic, and all you hear is nigger, nigger, nigger."

    She was not calling anyone the word, she was not using it out of hate, she was not using it as a slur, she was simply using it as an accurate description of the EXACT word they were saying on HBO. That's all. The caller then gets insensed a little bit later, says it herself (I guess it's "Okay" in that situation), and Laura continues to say it ONLY in attempting to clarify her point and only in the exact same context OR to defend what she said by actually not acting like a 3rd grader and spelling something out which is still just as obvious:

    "SCHLESSINGER: I didn't spew out the "nigger" word. "

    "SCHLESSINGER: -- nigger, nigger, nigger is what you hear on HB --" (cut off by the caller)

    "And what I just heard from Jade is a lot of what I hear from black-think -- and it's really distressting [sic] and disturbing. And to put it in its context, she said the N-word, and I said, on HBO, listening to black comics, you hear "nigger, nigger, nigger." I didn't call anybody a nigger. Nice try, Jade. Actually, sucky try."

    Now when I hear "made a rant using the n-word 11 times" the first thing...hell the FOURTH thing...that comes to my mind from a statement like that is not someone using it to describe something they actually heard on TV and is simply actually using the word.

    Tell me, how in the world does content, intent, or action change if she said:

    "SCHLESSINGER: Black guys use it all the time. Turn on HBO, listen to a black comic, and all you hear is n-word, n-word, n-word."

    Is one magically her slurring people and one magically not? Is one magically insulting people and one not? Is one magically meaning something different then the other?

    The entire flap is ridiculous and idiotic and the caller baited her into repeating it for the most part anyways...said it themselves...and even initiated the topic on it.

    Now, having said all that, my position remains the same. If idiots want to go forward with a boycott of this, and sponsors want to spinelessly pull out for this, then the company is free to get rid of her and no where in any of that has her first amendment rights been violated.

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