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    Re: Who is more ADMIRABLE, the POLITICIAN or the BUSINESSMAN?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    History is filled with great and noble politicians, not so with businessmen.
    but I don't recall any businessmen killing millions of innocent people



    history is full of politicians who did


    Henry Ford was a great and noble businessman, in fact most of life's comforts come from such people



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    Re: Who is more ADMIRABLE, the POLITICIAN or the BUSINESSMAN?

    well, let's see; one of these professions creates prosperity by placing something of his own at risk, and is the basis of our society.

    and the other believes that they are demigods because they were willing to suck up to the right party bigwigs and donors, and then ran a decent enough campaign in the right year to get elected.

    one of them must be constantly innovating, growing, and better meeting the needs and preferences of others in order to survive.

    the other has gerrymandering to ensure an over 90% retention rate.

    one wants to trade me something for my money, and i am free to tell them to go to hell.

    the other wants to take my money and give it to someone else; and what they are willing to 'trade' for this is me not going to jail.


    there are fdew politicians that i respect, and most of them are not career. but respect is my default position for the small businessman. Term Limits.

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    Re: Who is more ADMIRABLE, the POLITICIAN or the BUSINESSMAN?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    but I don't recall any businessmen killing millions of innocent people



    history is full of politicians who did


    Henry Ford was a great and noble businessman, in fact most of life's comforts come from such people
    I didn't say there weren't ignoble politicians.

    By the way, Henry Ford was a loony anti-Semite and unethical businessman.

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    Re: Who is more ADMIRABLE, the POLITICIAN or the BUSINESSMAN?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    I didn't say there weren't ignoble politicians.

    By the way, Henry Ford was a loony anti-Semite and unethical businessman.
    does hating business go hand in hand with being liberal?

    name a great politician



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    Re: Who is more ADMIRABLE, the POLITICIAN or the BUSINESSMAN?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    does hating business go hand in hand with being liberal?

    name a great politician
    Otto von Bismarck.

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    Re: Who is more ADMIRABLE, the POLITICIAN or the BUSINESSMAN?

    Quote Originally Posted by Patria Antiqua View Post
    Otto von Bismarck.
    Seriously? he was a great politician but his anti-papist and anti polish policies certainly showed him to be bigoted and flawed

    he also couldn't stand socialists so he has some admirable qualities



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    Re: Who is more ADMIRABLE, the POLITICIAN or the BUSINESSMAN?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Seriously? he was a great politician but his anti-papist and anti polish policies certainly showed him to be bigoted and flawed

    he also couldn't stand socialists so he has some admirable qualities
    Nobody is perfect, but he's more good than bad. Can't say the same of any notable businessman I've heard of. Bismarck is worthy of my respect in the way a snake like Henry Ford is not.

    Maybe Bill Gates, but he also happens to be a monopolist, or at least he was.

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    Re: Who is more ADMIRABLE, the POLITICIAN or the BUSINESSMAN?

    Quote Originally Posted by ElijahGalt View Post
    Each of these men did have their ideals, and some were very instrumental in doing good things, allowing good things to happen. However, it is wrong in my personal opinion to put such powerful men above the individuals who actually create society. Leaders of a society do not create anything. They can either regulate creation or allow it to happen without interferring. Some may stand for a new status quo that brings more liberties to more individuals, and I commend those individuals. But it is the businessman that creates innovation and discovery.
    I think businessman and entreupeneur (spelling?) are not always the same thing. Someone can create something new, or innovate, or invent, or build, all things related to producing a product. The average businessman is just a salesman, making a commission off the creativity of others. Not saying it is bad, just that selling isn't really something special.
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    Re: Who is more ADMIRABLE, the POLITICIAN or the BUSINESSMAN?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    I want politicians who get out of the way. That gives every individual has an opportunity to succeed on their own.
    In a state of anarchy, that's not a problem. No politicians.
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    Re: Who is more ADMIRABLE, the POLITICIAN or the BUSINESSMAN?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    name a great politician
    James Madison
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