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    Are you for or against net neutrality?

    I am doing an editorial for the site Kombo - Beta (Pardon the Dust) | Main Index on why net neutrality is incredibly important for gamers and why it is more beneficial for the FCC, rather than companies that stand to profit off of others losses (such as Google, Verizon) and while to me I feel it is a pretty cut and dry issue, I have heard that there are people against net neutrality, and wanted to get the opinions of more people just to see where others stand on the issue.

    Essentially, net neutrality would mean the internet stays the way it is right now, except ISPs such as Comcast would have to allow access to sites they have restricted in the past (usually these sites are P2P sites, pornography sites, etc).

    While I do not recommend you just follow this as a source, here is a good starting point on the basics of net neutrality: Network neutrality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    and here is a proposition by the Google-Verizon pact which actually serves as one giant loophole to allow them control of the net under the false pretense of net neutrality: Four Democrats urge U.S. to act on Internet traffic | Reuters
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    Re: Are you for or against net neutrality?

    I think the subject is a bit of a double edged sword. On one hand you have more government oversight and possible control and on the other you have monopolies that can take advantage of the public.

    The very notion of having the internet turn into something similar to cable television just sickens me. I hope I am dead and cold before anything like this happens.

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    Re: Are you for or against net neutrality?

    It is a double edged sword just as Baralis says. What I would add is that Companies should be able to make the choice if they block something or not. They are not getting rid of the site they are blocking...they are just keeping it off of their servers. Since it is thier servers and they are the ones providing the service I have no problem with them dictating what is allowed or not. It is much like renting a house, the owners should be able to say weather or not smoking or dogs are allowed. Not the renters.
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    Re: Are you for or against net neutrality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It is a double edged sword just as Baralis says. What I would add is that Companies should be able to make the choice if they block something or not. They are not getting rid of the site they are blocking...they are just keeping it off of their servers. Since it is thier servers and they are the ones providing the service I have no problem with them dictating what is allowed or not. It is much like renting a house, the owners should be able to say weather or not smoking or dogs are allowed. Not the renters.
    I would agree with you if these companies had used their own capital to build the infastructure but in most cases they were subsidized by the government to place infustructure along with government promises to restrict competition for many years. This gave many companies a monopoly over large districts. Where I live we only have 1 cable provider so the consumer is left with no alternatives.

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    Re: Are you for or against net neutrality?

    I'm not too knowledgable on this.

    I am very much against any sites being blocked.
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    Re: Are you for or against net neutrality?

    If you have no choice as to an Internet provider because that provider has a government-imposed monopoly in your area, then sure, they should not be able to restrict anything. That would also keep the government off the 'net, because allowing everything means there's nothing to regulate. (This does not, by the way, refer to schools blocking sites, companies blocking sites from employee access, etc. Those things are up to those entities.)

    But if that's not the case, and you have a choice of providers, and those providers are private companies, then they should carry what they want and block what they don't want.
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    Re: Are you for or against net neutrality?

    Several people however do not have the option in providers, specifically in rural areas. Comcast has been known to block sites just because of sites that offer services that compete with them. Really all this net neutrality regulation does, is keep regulation out.

    For example in the gaming sense, this "net neutrality" that Google proposes is anything but. It would allow Google the freedom to make an internet that was used by the highest bidder, to allow only companies that they choose or pay their price to be searched through their engines, and if this were the case then the site I am writing for now, or sites I have written for in the past would have had much less viewership.

    An ISP would be able to limit you to only the wireless devices they want you to use; you would have no choice but to use wireless routers that they allow. For gamers, this would also mean that the games they play could be potentially taxed.

    Here is a basic way of looking at it:
    With net neutrality things stay mostly the way they are now, maybe even possibly better

    Without net neutrality companies can nickel and dime you whenever they please, limit your choices, and create monopolies. The main reason for no government regulation in this case is so that other companies can turn a buck at the benefit of themselves and not the end user.
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    Re: Are you for or against net neutrality?

    From my limited understanding of this....

    I am both for and against it.

    I am for anything that prevents restrictions of any kind on internet traffic.

    I am against more government control/power.

    I have to think that this could morph into the gov. deciding what traffic instead of the service companies.

    But I don't know the details, so I'm not sure.
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    Re: Are you for or against net neutrality?

    Simply put, the FCC has been given a treatment from Verizon and Google, however their treatment has several special interest. Several democratic representatives and senators have been approached by Google and Verizon in the past to lobby for special little loopholes that help their business out and have since refused to hear out either Verizon or Google and are urging the FCC to not be influenced by any outside interest other than the American people.

    I understand the fear that government could somehow control this but as it stands, the FCC is unsure about the issue themselves and if they even have the authority, whereas most in congress simply want them to make it a federal regulation to keep the internet, worldwide web, all intranets (that are in public domain), ftp (in public domain), and internet connected devices free from any specific proprietary arbitration.
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    Re: Are you for or against net neutrality?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    It is a double edged sword just as Baralis says. What I would add is that Companies should be able to make the choice if they block something or not. They are not getting rid of the site they are blocking...they are just keeping it off of their servers. Since it is thier servers and they are the ones providing the service I have no problem with them dictating what is allowed or not. It is much like renting a house, the owners should be able to say weather or not smoking or dogs are allowed. Not the renters.
    The problem is, this isn't just one of many, many, many houses, most people have a very limited choice of ISPs that service their area unless they live in metropolitan areas and even then, they may only have a handful. What you're saying is that people ought to be able to censor what their customers have access to, which I wholly disagree with. Except for things that are blatantly illegal, I want to have access to everything that is available on the net, without restriction and without anyone telling me what they think I ought to be able to see. I'm paying for access, not for someone to decide for me what they think I should be able to view.
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