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    Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Religions have created good people with good morals... even if few religious people choose to ignore the principles of their faith. People can disagree with some of their opinions, but almost all of the religious people I know have their hearts in the right place.
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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    Religions have created good people with good morals... even if some religious people choose to ignore the principles of their faith. People can disagree with some of their opinions, but almost all of the religious people I know have their hearts in the right place.
    I'll agree with that.

    I will also say that most of these people would have their hearts in the right place even without religion. If there were no religion in the world, nice people would still be nice people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    I'll agree with that.

    I will also say that most of these people would have their hearts in the right place even without religion. If there were no religion in the world, nice people would still be nice people.
    Well since that will never happen anytime soon... I guess we'll never know.
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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Groucho View Post
    I'll agree with that.

    I will also say that most of these people would have their hearts in the right place even without religion. If there were no religion in the world, nice people would still be nice people.
    Conversely, I think bad people will still have found excuses to commit the things done in the name of religion.

    I think religion serves a useful purpose in those who chose to go that route. Religious groups do some wonderful charity work, and offer support to their members. This is not unlike many social/charity groups. I would go with more good than bad overall.
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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    I think trying to analyze the impact of such a huge and complex factor in human history, and then trying to analyze how every other factor of human history would react without it is so insanely huge a task that it can't be completed with any kind of accuracy.

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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    Religions have created good people with good morals... even if few religious people choose to ignore the principles of their faith. People can disagree with some of their opinions, but almost all of the religious people I know have their hearts in the right place.
    Almost all of the atheists I know have their hearts in the right places, too.

    What if all of the money that was spent in our country on big church buildings to feed the egos of religious leaders was instead given to house the temporarily homeless? OR to cure cancer? Or to feed the hungry people around the world?

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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    people are people, good or bad, and i think all the good done in the world, as well as all the bad, that has been done in the name of religion would have still been done, people of like-mindedness would still coalesce, religion just provides a convenient vehicle for that to happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Almost all of the atheists I know have their hearts in the right places, too.

    What if all of the money that was spent in our country on big church buildings to feed the egos of religious leaders was instead given to house the temporarily homeless? OR to cure cancer? Or to feed the hungry people around the world?
    At least with the church my family attends, a lot of the money DOES go to those things. A group of about 40 christians a day goes to another church to serve meals to about 300 poverty stricken people. And the operation is funded by churches in the area as well as other donations from charitable people.

    Not to mention the money spent on the church is intended to bring in and support more members... not to "feed the ego" of the pastor. More members = more money donated.

    The money also supports students in going to college, funding operations to feed the hungry in other countries, and sends members to locations all over the world to donate their time to help the needy (among other things).

    Edit: PLUS the church is sometimes used to temporarily shelter the homeless.
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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    people are people, good or bad, and i think all the good done in the world, as well as all the bad, that has been done in the name of religion would have still been done, people of like-mindedness would still coalesce, religion just provides a convenient vehicle for that to happen.
    IF that's the case, then the net effect of religion is zero. And when one takes into consideration the amount of money spent on the PRACTICE of religion (separate and apart from charitable activities), then the financial impact of money being spent on an religion purely for entertainment value is substantial.

    When I drive past the huge churches near my house, monuments to someone's huge ego, and empty about 90% of the time, I think about all of the poor people in our community who struggle, the senior citizens who can't afford their prescriptions, the children who never get new clothes, and I am rather disgusted by it all.

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