View Poll Results: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good

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  • YES! More Harm than Good

    22 38.60%
  • NO! More good than harm!

    21 36.84%
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    11 19.30%
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    3 5.26%
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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Could some of you be any deeper in denial? Don't try to convince me that religion is a 100% pure and positive thing because it's not - if you're convinced it is then you're blind and foolish.

    All I'm seeing from the religious-protectors: religion is under attack - throw logic and common sense to the wind and protect Religion at all costs!

    Funny - that's the SAME mind-frame that leads to religious atrocities and conflicts to begin with.

    Find me a religion that has NO blemishes, faults or quandaries of the foul and heinous nature what so ever and I'll consider your view.
    I've yet to see a single person who has said anything even resembling any of this. Why not address what has actually been posted rather than the strawmen you'd like to see?
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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    I don't have a god that compels me to be moral, and I still manage not to kill people almost every single day. Shockers!
    And I've already sated how I know a bunch of moral atheists, shocker!! The point is that some people do get their morality from religion, and it does make them a better person.
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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    I think people who get their morality from religion get it from the people they've surrounded themselves with rather than the religion itself. Just look at the number of rules in religions that their followers DON'T obey.

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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by CompSciGuy View Post
    I think people who get their morality from religion get it from the people they've surrounded themselves with rather than the religion itself. Just look at the number of rules in religions that their followers DON'T obey.
    Atheists go against their morality at times too. Yes, nobody follows every little rule, but religion gives many people a purpose to morality.
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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Damn. The poll numbers on this are way more balanced than I'd have predicted, given the subject.

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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    The wars, the murders.....
    The hope given, finding a better way to live......
    Religion is too often used as shackles for the ignorant, and justification for the acts of the unjust.

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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Religion is too often used as shackles for the ignorant, and justification for the acts of the unjust.
    It's just the most convenient excuse. Robspierre, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot didn't need the God excuse.
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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    Religions have created good people with good morals... even if few religious people choose to ignore the principles of their faith. People can disagree with some of their opinions, but almost all of the religious people I know have their hearts in the right place.
    i have to say i disagree........religion doesn't create morals. almost all people i known have their hearts in the right place, religious or not.

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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    It's just the most convenient excuse. Robspierre, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot didn't need the God excuse.
    No, they were a backlash of anti-religion that resulted. For centuries leaders told their "people" that they were poor and oppressed because God wanted them to be and that they were in charge because God wanted them to be. Eventually that story loses its luster.

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    Re: Religion (not spirituality) has Done More Harm than Good?

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    Atheists go against their morality at times too. Yes, nobody follows every little rule, but religion gives many people a purpose to morality.
    I tend to think that morality that is derived from logic and caring about other people is superior to morality that is derived from "If I don't do X, I will be punished in the afterlife."

    The problem is that much religious morality is "morality" only in their eyes -- some religions believe it is immoral to let a woman show her face, or it is immoral to be gay, or that it is immoral to eat certain foods and so on.

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