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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The port authority offered the land now they want to dictate what can be built.
    The port authority was also picking up a portion of the bill. The church wanted too much from them.
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The port authority was also picking up a portion of the bill. The church wanted too much from them.
    No the problem is the port wants to dictate the size and height of the building. Also the port refused to show the plans for the explosive proof garage for the church to review.
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No the problem is the port wants to dictate the size and height of the building. Also the port refused to show the plans for the explosive proof garage for the church to review.
    Let me requote from the article:

    We made an extraordinarily generous offer to resolve this issue and spent eight months trying to finalize that offer, and the church wanted even more on top of that,” said Stephen Sigmund, a spokesman for the Port Authority. “They have now given us no choice but to move on to ensure the site is not delayed. The church continues to have the right to rebuild at their original site, and we will pay fair market value for the underground space beneath that building.”
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    What does it matter? Why not the president defending a church that actually has a right to be there. Maybe because they are Christian they do not count.
    Because if it had nothing to do with the fact that it's a church and was for some unrelated bureaucratic reason, then it's completely irrelevant to this mosque. You know damn well that you aren't mad because the mosque is violating some zoning ordinance.
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Because if it had nothing to do with the fact that it's a church and was for some unrelated bureaucratic reason, then it's completely irrelevant to this mosque. You know damn well that you aren't mad because the mosque is violating some zoning ordinance.
    Yet no one talks about the Christians I guess they don't matter

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Yet no one talks about the Christians I guess they don't matter
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I really don't think it will have any affect all, however if it does so be it. A president should take a stance that he thinks is correct and Constitutional. I really don't believe President Obama stance on this is any different than President Bush's stance would be.
    Wait. A president following and upholding the CONSTITUTION. Where did you get such a silly idea! The president actually pushing what the Constitution states is the law? What a crackpot idea!
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No the port authority is dictating the size of the building. From my link


    Trouble emerged after St. Nicholas announced its plans to build a traditional Greek Orthodox church building, 24,000 square feet in size, topped with a grand dome. Port Authority officials told the church to cut back the size of the building and the height of the proposed dome, limiting it to rising no higher than the World Trade Center memorial. The deal fell apart for goodin March 2009, when the Port Authority abruptly ended the talks after refusing to allow church officials to review plans for the garage and screening area underneath. Sixteen months later, the two sides have still not met to resume negotiations.

    St. Nicholas Church’s difficulty in getting approvals to rebuild stands in stark contrast to the treatment that the developers of the proposed Cordoba mosque have received. New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg, state Atty. Gen. Andrew Cuomo, and a raft of city officials have all come out publicly in favor of building the mosque, and the city’s Landmarks and Preservation Commission recently voted unanimously to deny protection to the building currently occupying the site where the mosque is to be built.
    Let me see if I have this straight.

    The St. Nicholas Church is limited to a dome that is no higher than The WTC Memorial, which the best I can find looks to be 2 stories tall, yet the proposed Mosque is 13 stories tall and has permission to be built?

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Let me see if I have this straight.

    The St. Nicholas Church is limited to a dome that is no higher than The WTC Memorial, which the best I can find looks to be 2 stories tall, yet the proposed Mosque is 13 stories tall and has permission to be built?

    Correct me if I'm wrong.
    Probably has to do with the fact that the existing building they bought for the mosque is 13 stories tall.

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Probably has to do with the fact that the existing building they bought for the mosque is 13 stories tall.
    Minor detail.

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