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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Or it could be that people where, once again, twisting his words, so he made it absolutely clear what he was saying.
    No twisting he was defending Muslims not religion. Defending building ate that sight is wrong. Rights are always limited by the government.

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No twisting he was defending Muslims not religion. Defending building ate that sight is wrong. Rights are always limited by the government.
    Say huh what? You are ok with the government telling people where they can worship?
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rightwingnutjob View Post
    What is with your constant stereotyping. There are some on the right who feel very passionately about the constitution just as there are some on the left. There are many on both sides that don't care or even think about the constitution. Keep your stereotypes to yourself. You think all people who are against muslims are republican? Same with atheists and gays? That's just ignorant and naive.

    The only thing you said that was right was your last sentence. I agree whol heartedly there.

    Catz, what exactly did you see that was useful there? Aren't mods supposed to be reasonable?
    I was going overboard in reaction to Scarecrow whose views are about as anti-American as can be, in my opinion.

    I still hold that people who are anti-Muslim and anti-gay and anti-immigrant and anti-atheist aren't going to vote for democrats anyway.

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Thank you for indulging in the same kind of bigoted stereotyping and over generalization that you're attempting to suggest the other side is doing.

    I think it'll be a minor thing at most come November. Obama's not on the ballot, this won't be as large of a story at that point, and there's much larger issues at play.
    Sorry Zyph, you might consider it "bigoted stereotyping" but the reality is.....most Americans still believe that religious freedom applies to all in this country. The people that are feigning outrage over this are the minority who have forgotten that.
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    Its yet one more act to show the Messiah's insensitivity to the feelings of real Americans. He's not a real American, so it's not surprising he doesn't understand us. He didn't watch the fourth of July fireworks when he was four, his father never took him to a baseball game when his six, the people who raised him almost universally hated the United States. What's to wonder about here?

    So what if he takes a position pleasing to the muslim imams he was influenced by in his youth? Right?

    But for everything he screws up, and that means everything he does, he alienates more voters. He's been so effective at alienating voters he's now cutting into his support from the Dumocrats themselves. He's setting the stage for a Hillary prmary victory in 2012.
    An expected response from an extreme-conservative.
    Independent? My foot!
    If the tea-baggers make a big deal of of this, it will backfire....We are NOT a nation of bigots and racists. True, the percentage is higher than it should be.....

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    I think that significant numbers, on both sides of the aisle, view this as an abomination and are frustrated because legally, their hands are tied. I think more Americans think this is a bad idea than a good one.

    However, most American's understand that the cost of sacrificing the very core of American ideals and tenents is a worse idea than allowing this mosque. Those who do not understand that, wouldn't vote for Obama anyways. So, no. Taking the correct position on this debacle, will not hurt Obama. In fact, I think most Americans sense his own frustration about having to take the position that is the correct one, rather than the emotional one. A lot of us share that frustration.

    All that being said, I am SURE some pundits out there, famous for causing wedge distractions, will play it for all it's worth. And as sure as the sun rises, some sheep will follow. But the next election will be all about the pocketbook.
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I think that significant numbers, on both sides of the aisle, view this as an abomination and are frustrated because legally, their hands are tied. I think more Americans think this is a bad idea than a good one.

    However, most American's understand that the cost of sacrificing the very core of American ideals and tenents is a worse idea than allowing this mosque. Those who do not understand that, wouldn't vote for Obama anyways. So, no. Taking the correct position on this debacle, will not hurt Obama. In fact, I think most Americans sense his own frustration about having to take the position that is the correct one, rather than the emotional one. A lot of us share that frustration.
    Very nicely put.
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It must already be hurting him since he is already back pedaling.

    Mosque flap swirls around Obama - James Hohmann and Maggie Haberman and Mike Allen - POLITICO.com

    But on Saturday, Obama seemed to contradict himself, telling reporters at one point, I was not commenting and I will not comment on the wisdom of making the decision to put a mosque there. I was commenting very specifically on the right people have that dates back to our founding. That's what our country is about. And I think it's very important as difficult as some of these issues are that we stay focused on who we are as a people and what our values are all about."
    That is what I heard him say, and why I said I was in agreement with him. Now it seems people are saying that was a back peddle. No surprise I guess. I really do try to find things that I agree with the president on but it is extremely difficult.
    Can anyone help me out. What has Obama ever done that you think that I, as a conservative should agree with?
    I thought this was one, but maybe not.

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    That is what I heard him say, and why I said I was in agreement with him. Now it seems people are saying that was a back peddle. No surprise I guess. I really do try to find things that I agree with the president on but it is extremely difficult.
    Can anyone help me out. What has Obama ever done that you think that I, as a conservative should agree with?
    I thought this was one, but maybe not.
    It was not a backpedal, it was a clarification. Your heard his original words correctly. The problem is some tried to twist it into something else, so he clarified.

    Things you as a conservative may agree with(I dislike "should", you are the only one to judge that):

    Tax cuts for individuals.
    Tax breaks for small businesses
    Aggressively pursued the war on terror in Afghanistan.

    There are I am sure more, but those off the top of my head. However, I do point out that since conservatives and liberals have different visions on how to make the country better, most of what he does is not going to be liked by you or other conservatives, in the same way I disliked most of what Bush and Reagan did.
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Very nicely put.
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