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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Probably has to do with the fact that the existing building they bought for the mosque is 13 stories tall.
    Has nothing to do with it if they are going to tear down the existing building and build something new...... the new construction would have to conform to the building codes for new construction as I assume the Orthodox Church has to.
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Has nothing to do with it if they are going to tear down the existing building and build something new...... the new construction would have to conform to the building codes for new construction as I assume the Orthodox Church has to.
    The buildings are in different places too, let's not forget.

    And, the buildings next to the 13 story building they want to use for a mosque are also 13 stories tall. Would actually look more ridiculous if they built a 2 story building in between the two of them.

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    The buildings are in different places too, let's not forget.

    And, the buildings next to the 13 story building they want to use for a mosque are also 13 stories tall. Would actually look more ridiculous if they built a 2 story building in between the two of them.
    There is no way we can check the zoning of each building site, but it is probably safe to say that they are the same. By using your logic that the surrounding buildings are 13 stories (or more) tall then it's OK for the Mosque to be that tall, that same logic should dictate that the Orthodox Church should be allowed to be any height they want as the surrounding buildings are Skyscrapers.

    Yet they were told they couldn't build their church to be taller than the WTC memorial...... something here doesn't compute unless "religious tolerance" is rearing it's ugly head.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    There is no way we can check the zoning of each building site, but it is probably safe to say that they are the same. By using your logic that the surrounding buildings are 13 stories (or more) tall then it's OK for the Mosque to be that tall, that same logic should dictate that the Orthodox Church should be allowed to be any height they want as the surrounding buildings are Skyscrapers.

    Yet they were told they couldn't build their church to be taller than the WTC memorial...... something here doesn't compute unless "religious tolerance" is rearing it's ugly head.
    If they are building the church where it initially was, it makes perfect sense. I don't know if that's the case however as far as the location of the new church.

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    If they are building the church where it initially was, it makes perfect sense. I don't know if that's the case however as far as the location of the new church.
    As far as I can determine it is in the same location. I think the whole thing about the different height requirements is based on “religious tolerance”, and that stinks.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    As far as I can determine it is in the same location. I think the whole thing about the different height requirements is based on “religious tolerance”, and that stinks.
    Did you see where it initially was? There was no building near it really EXCEPT for the WTC ( and now the memorial). I mean, the WTC practically fell on it.

    They were having issues with their approval long before this whole mosque bull**** reared its head.



    Last edited by rivrrat; 08-18-10 at 02:45 PM.

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Did you see where it initially was? There was no building near it really EXCEPT for the WTC ( and now the memorial). I mean, the WTC practically fell on it.

    They were having issues with their approval long before this whole mosque bull**** reared its head.



    I guess I can rest my case.... all of the buildings around where the Church was were skyscrapers.... taller than anything they want to build to replace the old church, so zoning can’t be the reason they can’t build what they want now.
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    Originally Posted by PogueMoran
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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    I guess I can rest my case.... all of the buildings around where the Church was were skyscrapers.... taller than anything they want to build to replace the old church, so zoning can’t be the reason they can’t build what they want now.
    they're not side by side with the church. The church would be right the **** in front of the memorial. It only stands to reason that it would need to be no taller than the memorial. Considering where it is, I don't think there's another building closer to the memorial than where the church is proposed to be (if it is proposed to be where it originally was). That's a huge difference from 2 blocks away like the mosque is. I think you're just being a bit biased here.

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    If that church thought they were being discriminated against because of their religion, they'd have the best damn lawsuit ever. Lawyers would be jumping all over wanting to have them as clients.

    Instead, no one from the church thinks that. It's only the crazies on the internet throwing up another silly conspiracy theory that gullible people are buying.

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    Re: Will Obama's support of the Mosque hurt him/the dems in November?

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    If they are building the church where it initially was, it makes perfect sense. I don't know if that's the case however as far as the location of the new church.
    It is not they are being given land to make it bigger

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