View Poll Results: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

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  • The Obama’s presidency is out of touch with the American people

    29 64.44%
  • Most Americans don’t have confidence in The Obama’s leadership

    30 66.67%
  • The Obama fails to inspire

    22 48.89%
  • The United States is drowning in debt

    38 84.44%
  • The Obama’s Big Government message is falling flat

    32 71.11%
  • The Obama’s support for socialized health care is a huge political mistake

    27 60.00%
  • The Obama’s handling of the Gulf oil spill has been weak-kneed and indecisive

    27 60.00%
  • US foreign policy is an embarrassing mess under The Obama’s administration

    26 57.78%
  • The Obama is muddled and confused on national security

    28 62.22%
  • The Obama doesn’t believe in American greatness

    29 64.44%
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Thread: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

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    Re: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Study up on those people and you'll find out.
    So, "I say so" argument is all you got?
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    Re: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Bold part: Whoever said it does?
    Call it a hypothesis, Socialist is the new "faggot". Dont like someone? Call them a Socialist! It's nebulous, hard to define, sounds bad, and scares people. That and the kind of language I see around here and in the media.

    Underlined part: How much would you be willing to bet?
    It's a loaded term. It's used because of it's connection with Tsarist Russia which people, mistakenly, connect with Communism and people apparently think "Russia = Communism" even though the term "tsar" (the actual spelling of the word) actually referers to a monarchical autocracy popular in Russia pre-revolution. Which might then make you think people are trying to indicate that these people rule like autocrats over their chosen field...except...they dont really. Any way you slice it, it's a stupid usage of an archaic word designed to elicit an emotional response.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If you were paying a little more attention, you would have figured out that he meant...
    So my earlier assessment that a "czar" is a term used to emotionally load people's responses against advisors they dont like seems to be panning out

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Study up on those people and you'll find out.
    Been there, done that, when they were appointed. There is nothing Socialist about hardly any of them. Do you even know what Socialist means?
    I'm Done

    See my last post

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    Re: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    So my earlier assessment that a "czar" is a term used to emotionally load people's responses against advisors they dont like seems to be panning out
    Applying the term 'czar' to a position of authority in the Executive branch has been aruound since at least FDR.

    List of U.S. executive branch czars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The only way for your present line of argument to be something other than intentionally dishonest is for you to not have known any better.

    Perhaps you need to see:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czar_(political_term)
    Last edited by Goobieman; 08-15-10 at 10:11 AM.

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    Re: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

    I notice that few, if any, liberals have voted in the poll, though a number of them have made posts under the tiopic

    If the liberals do not think that any of the 10 items listed are the reason(s) for The Obsma's popular decline and resilting political woes, I wonder how THEY explain it.

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    Re: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I notice that few, if any, liberals have voted in the poll, though a number of them have made posts under the tiopic

    If the liberals do not think that any of the 10 items listed are the reason(s) for The Obsma's popular decline and resilting political woes, I wonder how THEY explain it.
    Wait. You want to know why his poll numbers are low? Why didn't you ask that instead of "Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble"? The administration isn't really in trouble, it has low poll numbers, which is normal for this time in a presidency.

    If you wanted an honest discussion, why did you ask a flawed question, with poll options taken from a propaganda hit piece? Why did you constantly refer to "The Obama", instead of President Obama, or just Obama? There is zero evidence you wanted an honest discussion.

    The reason the poll numbers are low is pretty obvious. Economy is bad, unemployment high. When those things improve, his numbers will improve. All your propaganda has nothing to do with the real reason, and is just that, propaganda. When you want to have a real discussion on real issues, and can leave your propaganda at the door, get back to us liberals, we might try and have a discussion with you.
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    Re: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?
    Michelle told him to take out the trash and he didn't.
    Always gets you in trouble.
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    Re: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Wait. You want to know why his poll numbers are low? Why didn't you ask that instead of "Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble"? The administration isn't really in trouble...
    Please feel free to subtantively refute the argument made to that effect; at this point you have provided zero evidence to that effect.
    Otherwise you're just trying to avoid an issue you know that you cannot counter - and as such, the poll question and options listed are perfectly legit.

    Your attacks on me and the article itself are nothing more than bitter red herrings designed to given you an excuse to avoid the issue.

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    Re: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Please feel free to subtantively refute the argument made to that effect; at this point you have provided zero evidence to that effect.
    Otherwise you're just trying to avoid an issue you know that you cannot counter - and as such, the poll question and options listed are perfectly legit.

    Your attacks on me and the article itself are nothing more than bitter red herrings designed to given you an excuse to avoid the issue.
    Your one source is an op ed. Get real....

    Edit: and why did you, once again, edit out most of my post, including where I actually talk to the question you ask, and instead raise some stupid objection that has nothing to do with anything. You have proven once again you have no interest in honest discussion.
    Last edited by Redress; 08-15-10 at 11:04 AM.
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    Re: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Your one source is an op ed.
    That makes an argument that you have stated that you disagee with, after which you were challenged to substantively refute.
    A challenge that you are avoiding.
    So, refute the argument or admit you cannot.
    Last edited by Goobieman; 08-15-10 at 11:16 AM.

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    Re: Why is The Obama’s administration in trouble?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    That makes an argument that you have stated that you disagee with, after which you were challenged to substantively refute.
    A challenge that you are avoiding.
    So, refute the argument or admit you cannot.
    I made an effort to discuss your topic. You have no interest in a discussion though.
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