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Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & daycares

Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuary schools & daycare


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Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayc

NY Republican/Tea Party Gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino openly campaigned on the idea that he wanted to use Eminent Domain to stop the project

That's a slippery slope notion that citizens need to reject.

I agree with you that public opinion will be persuasive. You asked who cares, and I think it's the fact that lots of people care very much and don't want that mosque built on that spot.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

This is obviously a joke.

That was my first thought, but then I thought about the fact that the Church has never co-operated with police and has repeatedly shuffled known molesters from parish to parish. Since this is an administrative failure at the managerial level, then the logical alternative is to take the bull by the horns. Not a joke at all. A very reasonable argument. If it were your mythical Uncle Louie or Aunt Mabel doing the molesting and got caught, they would be wearing big placards with blinking lights notifying the population of their nature.
 
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That was my first thought, but then I thought about the fact that the Church has never co-operated with police and has repeatedly shuffled known molesters from parish to parish. Since this is an administrative failure at the managerial level, then the logical alternative is to take the bull by the horns. Not a joke at all. A very reasonable argument. If it were your mythical Uncle Louie or Aunt Mabel doing the molesting and got caught, they would be wearing big placards with blinking lights notifying the population of their nature.

The Catholic Church has never cooperated with the police? Really?
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayc

That's a slippery slope notion that citizens need to reject.

Good luck with that one, people have no problem using the thugerment against people they dont like. Despite New York state being one of the highest states for eminent domain abuse, many Paladino supporters saw nothing wrong with it. They viewed as getting back at the left with the lefts tactics.
 
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The Catholic Church has never cooperated with the police? Really?


There's a history in Ireland of police collusion in the cover-up.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayc

Good luck with that one, people have no problem using the thugerment against people they dont like. Despite New York state being one of the highest states for eminent domain abuse, many Paladino supporters saw nothing wrong with it. They viewed as getting back at the left with the lefts tactics.

That's a real shame. Citizens across the country need to be alert to eminent domain abuse and to stand up to municipal and state bullies and land-grabbers.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

The Catholic Church has never cooperated with the police? Really?

Not on the large scale problem they haven't. They've only been forced to cooperate on individual cases and official Vatican policy remains, to this day, never to volunteer any information to the police. Heck, they just had a Bishop indicted for knowingly allowing a pedophile priest to go unpunished. This is something that is ongoing and the RCC is still trying desperately to hide the extent of the problem. Outwardly they claim they want to help law enforcement, internally though, it's another matter.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

Thats because moderate muslims fully realize that the mosque was put there ONLY as an affront to everyone that died on 911 and from the aftermath and as a FU to all of america...and had zero to do with religion or religious freedom that was used as whore for an excuse to put their monument there hailing the killers...

You should start a thread about this in the conspiracy section.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

I know a lot of dumb cops and fireman, too.

Does opposing the GZ mosque necessarily mean someone is dumb, or could it be more that there are legit arguments on both sides?
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

Bloody protestants.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

Does opposing the GZ mosque necessarily mean someone is dumb, or could it be more that there are legit arguments on both sides?

Blaming an entire group of people for the actions of a few is always dumb, IMO.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

I know a lot of dumb cops and fireman, too.

My brother is a cop....a successful one, career wise. He's dumber than a stump.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

My brother is a cop....a successful one, career wise. He's dumber than a stump.

My best friend is a cop and he's extremely intelligent.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

My best friend is a cop and he's extremely intelligent.

Guess ya can't judge a book by it's cover.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

Actually, Spud, I was not around here when this debate was really raging. It was always my understanding that everyone believed the Imam (I forget his name) had every right to build his mosque, just the same way that pastor in Florida had the right to burn Qurans. The question had more to do with whether it was the right or sensitive thing to do.

Some people took it from this angle. However, I seem to remember there were a decent number of people suggesting that the city itself should disallow them, legally, from building upon the land or purchasing the land or whatever else.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

Blaming an entire group of people for the actions of a few is always dumb, IMO.

Sure, I'd agree with this. I don't believe that's what's going in here though, unless we're saying that the Muslims who oppose the GZ mosque blame themselves.

Some people took it from this angle. However, I seem to remember there were a decent number of people suggesting that the city itself should disallow them, legally, from building upon the land or purchasing the land or whatever else.

As you think back, was it really a "decent number" or only a couple who posted a lot? I don't doubt what you say either way. It was never my argument though. Does it really make a difference? It seems pretty apparent that those who support mosque don't see any argument against it as being legit.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuary schools & daycares?

After all a tiny percentage of catholic priests molested some kids. Letting them build near elementuary schools and day cares might be too much of a temptation and would be offensive to those who were abused by child molesters.
Lol. At this point it's almost possible to make the argument that such a regulation would be narrowly tailored under due process analysis with a straight face.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

On the other hand, an OP with a ludicrous and inflammatory proposition has survived for 15 pages. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

On the other hand, an OP with a ludicrous and inflammatory proposition has survived for 15 pages. :mrgreen:

Not to mention becoming active again after more than a year. :D
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

Well, there's that. But hey, any excuse will serve, yes?
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

On the other hand, an OP with a ludicrous and inflammatory proposition has survived for 15 pages. :mrgreen:

Inflammatory? How? There is nothing inflammatory about my thread. It was made to illustrate a point.
 
Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

Inflammatory? How? There is nothing inflammatory about my thread. It was made to illustrate a point.

Suggesting that Catholics shouldn't be allowed around "elementuary" schools (is that where people go to learn the basics of running a mortuary? :D) and day cares is pretty inflammatory, and I'm not even Catholic.
 
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