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    Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Cephus has kinda stepped on your point here, hasn't he? Obviously he took the suggestion that Catholics shouldn't be allowed around kids quite seriously...and also quite positively, I might add.
    It's a free country, people can have what ever opinion they want. Statistics do not back what he says, so why would you care what he thinks?
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    Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayc

    Trust me, Mac, I know from experience, it does not matter what you can prove objectively, Hatuey will steadfastly refuse to see it.

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    Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayc

    Did you read the articles before posting them? Here I'll summarize: Both source the John Jay College study. Which as I've already explained, says NOTHING about how often abuse occurs. It's a study on victims who came forward. Here is the best part:

    Most of the abuse never gets reported. Those cases reported often end with no action. Cases investigated sometimes can't be proven, and many abusers have several victims.
    Please learn to understand the articles you post as if you understand the methodology any more than they do? As I've stated earlier. There is simply NO research showing the extent of the abuse because most victims simply have not come forward.
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    Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayc

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Trust me, Mac, I know from experience, it does not matter what you can prove objectively, Hatuey will steadfastly refuse to see it.
    Eyo cookie, you following me around or what? You seem to like being smacked around upstairs and then reporting people. Still blowing CC's e-nuts for that admin position? Or did they finally tell you no? Never mind. Lolz "the dark side".
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    Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayc

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Did you read the articles before posting them? Here I'll summarize: Both source the John Jay College study. Which as I've already explained, says NOTHING about how often abuse occurs. It's a study on victims who came forward. Here is the best part:



    Please learn to understand the articles you post as if you understand the methodology any more than they do? As I've stated earlier. There is simply NO research showing the extent of the abuse because most victims simply have not come forward.
    Read the next link. There were two links there. I'm sure you're bright enough to review all of the information...
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    Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayc

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Trust me, Mac, I know from experience, it does not matter what you can prove objectively, Hatuey will steadfastly refuse to see it.
    I don't really give a crap about him, I just want as few people that read his posts as possible to buy off on it.
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    Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's a free country, people can have what ever opinion they want. Statistics do not back what he says, so why would you care what he thinks?
    It goes to disprove your assertion that nobody could take the statement in this thread seriously, obviously several do and are only too happy to use it as an invitation to bash Catholics. Which is all fine, btw, but you cannot say that the thread is not inflammatory.

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    Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayc

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Read the next study. There was two links there. I'm sure you're bright enough to review all of the information...
    Okay, I'm not even sure how to spell this out for the methodologically ignorant: The studies conducted regard reported abuses. Do you know what that means? It doesn't mean that those were the only abuses that happened. It means that those are reported cases. Now to people who know how to read, that doesn't mean that this is how often abuse happens. It means that that is how many have been reported. As sexual abuse is one of the most under reported crimes, there is even less reason to conclude that only 4% of priests have actually abused kids. That last little bit? Yeah, both your articles make what I have said explicitly clear.
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    Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayc

    The problem is the shortsightedness of the people who never question the public school system with the same harshness as the Catholic schools. There is essentially no incentive to sue a public school, and no reason, at all, to believe they are now safer or where ever safer than Catholic schools.

    I understand that abuse occurred and it was bad, and there still is some abuse. I realize that even with the new system in Catholics schools, the system still isn't perfect. What about the new system in public schools? Oh, there isn't one...

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    Re: Should catholics be banned from building churches near elementuaryschools & dayca

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It goes to disprove your assertion that nobody could take the statement in this thread seriously, obviously several do and are only too happy to use it as an invitation to bash Catholics. Which is all fine, btw, but you cannot say that the thread is not inflammatory.
    I think you misunderstood. I said the comment is not inflammatory because it's worthless. Someone (and given enough people, you'll surely find at least one) may make the statement earnestly, but it's obviously false and cannot be supported by statistic. There's no reason to give such utter foolishness consideration, much less waste emotional response. It's a child's statement, easily dismissed as such. Just because someone can make a statement and try to be sincere about it; if it's utter tom foolery there is no point in becoming involved. If someone claimed that gravity wasn't real, I wouldn't get pissed off at them; I'd just dismiss the comment. Same thing here.
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