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Thread: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights Act

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I suggest you go back and read your history about segragation. The law is thier to keep big business criminals in check.
    I suggest you stop pretending knowledge that doesn't exist.

    If the law was intended to keep "big business" in check, it wouldn't apply to the family run restaurant in Nashville.

    The law was intended to expand federal power into realms it was expressly forbidden to enter.

    As I said, the CRA should not have been applied outside of the federal government itself.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I suggest you stop pretending knowledge that doesn't exist.

    If the law was intended to keep "big business" in check, it wouldn't apply to the family run restaurant in Nashville.

    The law was intended to expand federal power into realms it was expressly forbidden to enter.

    As I said, the CRA should not have been applied outside of the federal government itself.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Tow that republican line.
    Are you aware that the correct idiom is "toe the line", ie, stand within specified bounaries, and not "haul it around behind your 4x4"?

    Besides which, I'm not a Republican, but I support the republic. Speaking of racism and bigotry, can you explain what it is when your arguments are nothing but vacant stereotypes showing a complete lack of understanding of the issues as well as the idiom?

    So, how about if you tow your personal attacks away and see if you can't find the maturity to discuss the issue presented?
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    That is the incorrect republican answer.
    Neither John Stossel nor I are Republicans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    In most states, it's illegal to post a sign that says anything to the effect of "We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone."
    And yet they are still allowed to kick you out for a bunch of bs reasons.

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    John Stossel's suggestion is disgraceful and quite suggestive of a desire to allow discrimination.
    He doesn't like discrimination. Neither do I, but we both see freedom of association as a two way street.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I totally agree with you. I think people who do that are nutz. Nobody would put a sign like that in their windows. But my instincts tell me that, given no consequence, some restaurants would indeed discriminate loud and clear. "I'm sorry, there's a 2-hour wait." Honestly, I could even see restaurants turning into private clubs...not that much of a stretch...membership fee waived for some; not for others. The prejudiced people I ran into in my business were more often than not in the 40's-50's and over. You could be rght that it's going of the way of the dinosaur, but I don't think it's there yet. Imagine! If it's like that in Maggie's world in Chicago, what must it be like in the south?
    I'm thinking it would be blacks keeping out whites if anything.
    Honestly though, I don't think businesses would be very profitable if they shut people out because of race.
    Would people have problems with gay only bars?
    What about women only or men only?
    Or under 30 bars? or singles bars? or married only bars? or only fat peoples bars or beautiful people bars? Or Muslim only non bars? Oh never mind I'm getting stupid. :-)
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    A private business has every right to be assholes if they want. There should be NO discrimination in government agencies or any entity that recieves publc funding. A private business should have the right to make their own decisions.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I prefer the method that currently exists.
    I cannot concur. I think the current method encourages the state (parent) and individual (child) society. You cannot force people to like each other, it must come from them.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Not one person who agrees with Stossel responded to what I said or even acknowledged it.

    My Jewish ancestors living in America before the civil rights act were second class citizens until these laws upheld their status as equals. Why don't you go back in time and tell my great grandmother that she was raising her son in squalor because the free market was in the process of working itself out.

    It never did. The government fixed the problem, we don't need to revisit that chapter in our history.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    The rules were created to combat dispicable racism and the scumbags who carried on as such. The rules are necessary. John Stossel is a disgrace and needs to lose his job over it.
    I agree on why the rules were created but, the rules are not necessary. The state is not my father or mother who tells me who I have to hang out with or who I have to allow on my property. I am the judge of that. Just think how you feel between being forced to do something rather than come to your own conclusions? This is what the state has done; instead of allowing people to do things on their own pace, it has forced people and created more antagonism.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    Not one person who agrees with Stossel responded to what I said or even acknowledged it.
    I will acknowledge it. First; America has never had a free market thus, you cannot blame such process. Second; treating people as second class citizens because of their culture is not right but, laws will never change people minds. Third; it is different for a state to uphold equality when it comes to state functions and public areas and it is different for a state to force people to do what they do not want to do with themselves and their property. I do not have you let you into my house for any reason, period. Now, do you think it is right for the state to change that?
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