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Thread: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights Act

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    If you don't believe in the freedom to have and express ugly thoughts, you don't believe in freedom.

    If you don't believe in the freedom to associate with others on whatever basis you wish (if they'll have you), even if it's those ugly thoughts, then you don't believe in freedom.
    Hey you can think what you want, it's when you apply your opinion to businesses and reject people because you don't like the way they look when you are getting rid of freedom. Also I'm not bashing Paul per se I'm bashing the entire part where the Libertarians have this idea that its fine to not serve people based on color or if they don't like the way they look, and they all mostly got this idea from the fact that Ron Paul, their great one, is a racist old man.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Hey you can think what you want, it's when you apply your opinion to businesses and reject people because you don't like the way they look when you are getting rid of freedom. Also I'm not bashing Paul per se I'm bashing the entire part where the Libertarians have this idea that its fine to not serve people based on color or if they don't like the way they look, and they all mostly got this idea from the fact that Ron Paul, their great one, is a racist old man.
    I weep for the future of journalism.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    “The means of defense against foreign danger historically have become the instruments of tyranny at home."
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    I happen to be a business owner, and I must say -- I don't WANT the right to refuse service to a person based upon their race or ethnicity. It's not as if my owning a business makes me lord and master of all I survey, you know.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I happen to be a business owner, and I must say -- I don't WANT the right to refuse service to a person based upon their race or ethnicity. It's not as if my owning a business makes me lord and master of all I survey, you know.
    Ultimately, discrimination is self-defeating. Basically, you would be fining yourself for your own biases, and if you were biased enough, you'd go out of business. It's kinda funny, but laws like CRA probably do more to keep racist business owners in business than putting them out of business.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Since he jumped ship to FOX News he can say whatever he wants you mean.

    Also it's disheartening that people would agree to get their rights taken away. Where would it stop? A hospital or pharmacy could refuse a certain race or whatever service. What if it was a white guy in a Hispanic neighborhood? I guess buses should refuse to seat mexicans, could make black bus, white bus, mexican bus.
    Take a step back for a second and think about it - do you actually think that any of this would ever happen?
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Hey you can think what you want, it's when you apply your opinion to businesses and reject people because you don't like the way they look when you are getting rid of freedom.
    No one has the freedom to contract with you if you don't want to enter that contract.

    I would like to buy everything you own and all you ever will own for the sum of $1. If you refuse me, you are taking away my freedom. At least according to your formulation, you would be.


    Also I'm not bashing Paul per se I'm bashing the entire part where the Libertarians have this idea that its fine to not serve people based on color or if they don't like the way they look, and they all mostly got this idea from the fact that Ron Paul, their great one, is a racist old man.
    Now you're simply being juvenile.

    Libertarians were around long before Ron Paul. Libertarians, at least the ones who aren't obsessed with drugs, are generally the most independent-minded folks in the political sphere. And you have no ability to separate principle from hyperbolic emotional baggage.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Libertarians, at least the ones who aren't obsessed with drugs, are generally the most independent-minded folks in the political sphere. .
    and to prove it, they all say the exact, same things about the exact, same issues.

    But I'm just a "statist" so you must forgive my heresy.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    and to prove it, they all say the exact, same things about the exact, same issues.
    Outsiders usually tend to think group members are all exactly the same.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    I happen to be a business owner, and I must say -- I don't WANT the right to refuse service to a person based upon their race or ethnicity. It's not as if my owning a business makes me lord and master of all I survey, you know.
    Then don't refuse them. It's a matter of maintaining liberty. They tell you one thing, they can tell you another.
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