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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    • It is completely legal to discriminate. All that is required is to call it a "private" club. So why doesn't this happen more often and I am curious what the people that believe the CRA should stand feel about "private" clubs.
    • People will discriminate regardless. Very few situations exist that a person could not be refused service for **some** reason. Retail sales would be an exception. In the case of the house that was presented earlier, all the home owners had to do was refuse the first offer and keep their mouth shut to the reason.
    • Why would a person want to frequent a place they aren't welcome? No law exists that requires a proprietor to make a customer "comfortable". If a person goes in place and made to feel "out of place" chances are they would leave and/or not come back to that business.
    • Isn't it interesting that the only time it's legal to ask a person race is if it's required by the government?
    • It's not just a matter of calling something a "private club." Requiring a liquor license, as an example, will most often disqualify an establishment from exemption under the Federal statute -- as well as the fact that many states have enacted civil rights laws stricter than those of the Federal government.
    • Re the house example, you're right. Had the seller not talked about his reasoning, it would have been difficult to prove. Who knows whether or not HUD would have pursued it. It might depend on what the final sale price was that the seller DID accept.
    • Ask Rosa Parks why she wanted to sit in the front of the bus. Be prepared to listen to her answer.


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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Ask Rosa Parks why she wanted to sit in the front of the bus. Be prepared to listen to her answer.
    That's different. Public services should not have any favoritism based on race. They're publically owned. It's different with private business.

    Civil Rights Laws are needed. They serve a worthy purpose. And further, they aren't goin' anyplace.
    In the public, not the private sector.

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    That's different. Public services should not have any favoritism based on race. They're publically owned. It's different with private business.



    In the public, not the private sector.
    Ok so then you are saying because the bus system out in the Northern Kentucky area is private owned, they should be allowed to refuse whoever they want then?

    Also my comment on Stossel had nothing to do with him being a libertarian and more to do with the fact that he's a whore just like (most) everyone else on Fox News.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Also it's disheartening that people would agree to get their rights taken away.
    What rights would those be, exactly?

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Ok so then you are saying because the bus system out in the Northern Kentucky area is private owned, they should be allowed to refuse whoever they want then?
    If they contract with the state, county or city, no they can't.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Also my comment on Stossel had nothing to do with him being a libertarian and more to do with the fact that he's a whore just like (most) everyone else on Fox News.
    He's a pretty tough cookie to debate and regularly tries to take his political adversaries one on one, he also allows both sides to present their case.

    I'd say he's more fair than anyone else on tv.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    Ok so then you are saying because the bus system out in the Northern Kentucky area is private owned, they should be allowed to refuse whoever they want then?
    Yup. And if they do, people will stop riding and another non-racist company can scoop up the market.

    Though HG makes a good point. If it's a government granted monopoly, then they shouldn't be able to.

    Also my comment on Stossel had nothing to do with him being a libertarian and more to do with the fact that he's a whore just like (most) everyone else on Fox News.
    Why is he a whore besides the fact that you don't like him?

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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by phattonez View Post
    That's different. Public services should not have any favoritism based on race. They're publically owned. It's different with private business.
    No, no. The poster asked "Why would anyone want to go where they're not wanted?"
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by Coronado View Post
    What rights would those be, exactly?
    The right to buy a candy bar where I want?

    Seriously though what is it with Paul family supporters and wanting to relegalize racism?
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    The right to buy a candy bar where I want?

    Seriously though what is it with Paul family supporters and wanting to relegalize racism?
    You can't make bigotry illegal.
    That's a thought crime and it's dumb.
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    Re: John Stossel called for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights A

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No, no. The poster asked "Why would anyone want to go where they're not wanted?"
    If it's a public serivce, all races own it and everyone must use it, hence allowing racism here is absurd and unethical.

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